[Tony West]

[Andrew Kimery] “[Aindreas Gallagher] “other third sound like they’ve drank something.”

To be fair Aindreas, many time you sound like you drank something too. 😉
“

hahahaha

I had great time in LA Andrew, will have to try to catch up next time.

[Tony West]

[James Ewart] “For sure they must have thought about it a lot and decided it would rock the boat.”

I think they did it because they thought it made more sense that way. Why would they say to themselves “hey this is stupid, let’s do it”

The only time I even think about the word “project” in X is when I’m creating a new one, and it won’t even let you create one unless you NAME it.

If you named it “project” then that would be silly.

When I was working on my doc, I didn’t want to string the whole film out in the timeline. I thought it would bog down, so I would work in sections at a time. (like chapters of a book)

When I was working in the “Weldon” section that was the name of that project. Weldon.

The people that I worked with knew the film wasn’t titled Weldon. They knew that was a section of the film. They would say, “this or that needs to be changed in WELDON” not. “change this in the “project”

At no time was it ever difficult for any of us to understand what we were looking at or talking about.

Granted, my film was small budget, but I didn’t hear those guys complaining about miscommunication on FOCUS because of the name “project” Shouldn’t it have come up then? On a film that big?

There are changes they have made that I hate. Like Greying out iTunes. That makes it harder for me to see what’s what.

I think Photos looks bland and ugly.

I think the icons for the apps look bland and ugly and cheap.

I’m sure they, and others would disagree : )

[Tony West]

[Jeremy Garchow] “So just call it a timeline if it’s really that confusing. The FCPX manual uses the word timeline.
“

Yes.

I use the word timeline all the time and everyone knows what I’m talking about.

I never used the word sequence. I would say timeline then and I say it now. Nothing has changed in that sense for me.

After finishing my doc, I would like the ability to make a DCP straight out of X

That’s a bigger deal for me than the “project” name

[Tony West]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “FCPX is the car in the garage with the steering wheel on the roof and the pedals put where the wing mirrors usually are.”

Only that would make the car almost impossible to drive for everybody.

X isn’t almost impossible to drive for everybody.

X is more like a car that says, you don’t have to stop at the gas pump, but you can if you want to pump gas.

[Tony West]

[David Lawrence] ” I was pissed. That led me and my brother to make a certain YouTube Hitler meme video that went viral, lol.”

hahaha I had no idea that was you David : )

[David Lawrence] “The presenter is Peter Steinauer,”

Oh I knew who he was, I watched them introduce him and say his title. Speaking while the audience is cheering is a basic no no. People can’t hear you when you do that. He couldn’t even do basic stuff like that right. Not having the program on the screen instead of stills. Evan blew him out of the water for my money. Arrogance? (or confidence) Evan had that in spades, remember that point when he looked at the audience and said, “do you like this? I mean, I don’t care” hahaha He was keeping it real. He didn’t care if they liked it or not, he liked it.

[David Lawrence] “The final blow was seeing that it couldn’t open any of my FCP projects but opened iMovie projects just fine.”

Yes, this was a killer for so many. For me, it wasn’t that big of a deal since you could still use FCP
If I wanted to work on an old project I could open it in the program that I had been using for years.

In theory, of course it should, but in practice, I wasn’t really doing that anyway. My clients weren’t coming to me wanting some old video I did for them 2 or 3 years ago. They wanted fresh new stuff.

So many things have changed so quickly. When I look back at stuff I shot before the affordable large sensor cameras, I cringe. I want to re-shoot all that stuff with my primes. Heck, I’d rather you pay me to do a whole new video anyway so I can make more money : )

I hear you and others, it just wasn’t a deal breaker for me.

[David Lawrence] “he’s conveniently not telling the audience is that it’s impossible to open the FCP7 timeline in FCPX. How do you think the crowd would have reacted to that minor detail?”

I think they would have booed him depending on how he did it.

Once again, it’s presenting 101 You get out ahead of bad news, you don’t let people find out on their own. He should have said that you won’t be able to do that but you will still have FCP to work with. Apologize and move on.

[David Lawrence] ” It’s impossible to tell WTF is happening in the FCPX timeline because so much is hidden. And btw, there’s no way to see the hidden media in context because compound clips open in their own timelines.”

You can just hit “break apart clip items” and it expands all clips back out “in’ the timeline.

When guys post stills of their timeline on here they don’t ever post a bunch of CCs, they want you to see their work. It’s always expanded.

CCs is just a tool I use from time to time when I don’t want to scroll up and down so much while I’m working. I know I can always expand the clips back when ever I get done or need to.

If I have a ten layer deep graphic section, why do I need all that head room? I just compress it for now while I’m working. It’s an option. You don’t have to ever use it.

[David Lawrence] “I’m sure they gave out preview copies, but I sincerely doubt they incorporated any critical feedback. “

Then why give out copies? If they don’t want to hear what he has to say he can just wait like the rest of us.

We know they listened to the guys on Focus because they came out and publicly said so.

[David Lawrence] ” It was a mess when they released it but ever since they fixed libraries, it’s been quite fine and great choice for everyone who likes it. And it’s certainly made the NLE playing field a lot more interesting!”

Indeed : )

[Tony West]

[David Lawrence] “A laughable demo”

I take your point David about Apple feeling like they were solving “problems”

Thanks for reposting this. I had forgotten how bad a job the presenter did. Just in terms of how nervous he was and stumbling all over his words.

How he didn’t even have the program there to actually show how it worked. He just described how it worked and kind of poorly.

But given all that, what jumps out at me are the reactions.

They loved it.

[David Lawrence] “despite the applause you hear at this sneak, the eventual release alienated a significant portion of the professional editing community”

That’s what get’s me though David. The people in that room were reacting to what they saw in realtime.

Before they were told by others that they should hate it, they liked it : )

[David Lawrence] “If the engineers and UX designers had bothered to actually talk to FCP users during development,”

I just don’t believe they didn’t talk to FCP users. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
When Schechtman took to that window to give that presentation back in 11, there was no way he knew that program in that kind of detail in that short time period. He had his hands on that program way out.
They were listening to him, and there is no way he was the only one.

When Evan showed up, it was impossible to make the argument that he had never seen that program.

Just my take.

[Tony West]

[David Lawrence] “speaking as someone who’s never considered “clip collisions” a problem, for me, the magnetic timeline is still a backwards steering bike. 😉
“

I think you hit on something here David that I see sometimes, that we don’t really discuss on the forum and I think it causes folks to talk past each other on some points..

That line implies that others may have had a “problem” with clip collisions. Unlike you. (In a way it’s a little like what you accuse Bill of doing but in the reverse, to stay with the thread : )

BTW I enjoy reading your post David, I hope this is not taken as a swipe.

I don’t think people saw it as a “problem”. That was just the way people cut. We ALL cut that way. Now there is a different option.

It’s like when someone sends me an email with an address. Before, I would cut and paste that info into a map search.

Now when I touch that address in the iPhone it just goes right to the spot on the map. I prefer that. I find it more efficient. It has nothing to do with me thinking cut and paste is a “problem”. I have been cutting and pasting for a long time.

I want that map to just open though.

[Tony West]

I find myself doing that with a lot of things. I will start putting something together without reading the instructions and have to go back.

I think my problem is I don’t have enough patience sometimes.

That makes me try to skip ahead, and often mess up : )

[Tony West]

Andrew, that’s a great video. Thanks man.

I have to say, I never really found X that difficult.

It took me a little time to figure out short cuts and how to control things, but that was partly my fault.

It looked so simplistic to me that I never really bothered to read up on it or watch a tutorial.

I just dove into it.

[Tony West]

[Bret Williams] “I certainly realize that nursing homes are expensive. I don’t know if they’re lining their pockets or not.”

If I had to guess, I would say that they are charging sky high prices because they know that Medicaid and Medicare is going to pick it up.

You can’t get blood out of a rock. if people don’t have it you can’t get it. And most won’t have it.

Most people can not afford 6k a month on a fixed income. Heck, most people can’t pay it now at their full income.

If you don’t have it and no medicare then what? People on the streets like before the New Deal?
Good luck selling that plan to people.

[Bret Williams] “Your grandmother chose a low paying career”

(my aunt) and what she “chose” was an honorable career helping children learn. As an African American Woman in the 40’s and 50’s in this country I’m sure you are aware that her career paths were quite limited.
I know you are self aware enough to know that, so I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt as
a miss type : )

[Bret Williams] “My son didn’t choose his ailment, but yet I’m still not a big government fan”

I don’t know you or your son, but if they take some money from my check to help him or others like him I’m fine with that.

There are only two choices. Government or private. After dealing with Private insurance as a Freelance person and having them asking me if I had anything on their 3 page list of questions, I can’t imagine they would welcome your son with open arms.

So he has to struggle, so Bill McGuire on United Healthcare can get his BBBBBB Billion dollars he got?

[Bret Williams] ” But had she been allowed to invest that 15% in even a modest fund averaging 6.5% compounded interest she’d have $425k banked up.”

Allowed? People are “allowed” to invest in the stock market anytime they want. The stock market is a casino. There is no guarantee you will do well. Let’s say you are half way to retirement Bret, following your example you should have 212K banked right now. It’s just not realistic. Has that last big crash left your memory already? That was the government and the taxpayers that had to bail those fools out, or there wouldn’t even be a market for people to fantasize about.

[Bret Williams] ” Because obviously I could easily do better with that cash than the govt. “

I don’t think you could. See above.

Finally I would say that the government is not some strange thing that is out there. It is the representative
of the people who take the time to vote. We have the new deal because The People wanted it.
More people wanted it in this country than the people who didn’t want it.

That’s what America is all about Bret. You got an idea, go out and convince people to get on board.
That’s what I do everyday.