[Tom Daigon]

I suggest all concerned folks that are on Twitter express these concerns to @Adobe. They do listen, their wonderful software can attest to that. Lets hope they are receptive to your feelings on this subject as well.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

[Petros Kolyvas] “Thankfully I still can buy the perpetual license.”

Petros, they haven’t released any price or terms of use info yet, but Im not sure you WILL be able to buy the perpetual license. From all the Cloud marketing, Im getting the feeling that we CANT. And I hope I end up being proved wrong.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

Yes, Im not happy about it either. Im hoping they are open to providing their customers a variety of options.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

I defense of Adobe, with the subscription model, if you only need 4 months,then you only pay for 4 months. But when you stop paying the software becomes deactivated until you start paying again (as fas as I know at this point in time). So you cant use it. Thats the part I am really unhappy about.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

You bring up some good points Walter. The only issue that really concerns me is the loss of the ability to use the program if for some reason I need to stop my subscription. I guess Im somewhat old fashioned about this.

Walter-“Well, yeah you can edit with it forever provided you stop upgrading your computer / hardware at the last point the software is stable.”

As I understand it, I cannot edit forever with CS Next if I stop paying the monthly fee since I will loose activation of the software.

I really like Walter Soyas solution which is rooted in Avid and Autodesk subscription models.

I think that Creative Cloud is a great option to have, as it lowers the upfront cost to zero, and as I realistically don’t have the option of not upgrading from an interoperability standpoint.

I think perpetual license is a great option to have, as it carries no recurring fees.

There is a middle path. I prefer the maintenance model that companies like Autodesk and Maxon use: you buy into the software, then you pay a regular maintenance/subscription fee. As you as you’re paying, you get updates. If you stop paying, everything you have licensed to that point is still perpetually licensed. If you want another update, you’re going to have to pay retail for it, or pay extra to get back on subscription.

I think maintenance is the best of both worlds. The customer gets regular updates and doesn’t feel locked in. The developer gets a regular revenue stream. I’d love to see Adobe offer something like this.

I know lots of other folks have the same concern as I do on this issue. Knowing how good Adobe is at listening to its customers, Im hopefull they can address this one in a manner that makes everyone happy.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

If you are on Twitter contact Al Mooney (Production Manager for PrP). Maybe he can help direct you to the right person.

When you find out the best way to do it, please post here so other concerned folks can contact them as well.

Probably better if you dont mention my name. He seems annoyed that Im making a case out of this issue.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

David I really like Walters suggestion of a middle ground solution. Where I can outright purchase CS Next and subscribe to a maintenance program to get the updates. Read his entry if you havent. And please email Adobe with your concern. I know a lot of other small business owners are concerned about being forced into the Cloud where they dont have ownership of the software .

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

Im pretty much resolved to stay with Blender. Spending $3500 to get all the same stuff in C4D is not anything I want to do. I dont do enough 3D to warrant it. And I think folks are going to get a rund shock when they see the limitations of using 3D with AE in the same comp.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

Theres a certain irony there. Big difference is they didnt include a free version of 3DSMax with AE. That would have been nice.

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

Well said. I concur.

Im so torn because after doing tutorials for both C4D and Blender 2.66. Blender really puts it to shame.

It has a new, very professional and functional GUI,amazing use of GPU for accelerated display and rendering (it flys on my Z820), great modeling tools and all the features of the Studio version (and not costing $3500). I could go on and on. I dont have time to master 2 3D packages, but the link to AE makes C4D very tempting.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid