Cloud drawbacks as I see them.

[Wilbert Thomas]

I can definitely see your point that’s why I still have my cs5.5 installed just in case. But I think Adobe strategy is to lure the next generation of editors to their platform versus the kids going to Final Cut X b/c of price.

Will Thomas
SpaceCherryFilms.com

[Tom Daigon]

And lets be honest, it saves them a heck of a lot of money in the manufacturing and distributing of disks. From where I sit they reap more benefits then I do for the monthly rental approach.:D

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
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[Michael Garber]

While I agree about the cost, one benefit to digital-only is that they can now update on a more frequent basis. With discs, we would have to wait for the next version for major updates or features. Only bug fixes could really be made between versions.

Michael Garber
5th Wall – a post production company
Blog: GARBERSHOP

[Michael Hendrix]

Tom, I can see your point, however, when you think about the price, at $50 a month, it would take 3 years to catch up to the price of the production suite. In those three years, you could go through 3 versions of upgrades. Not to mention the fact that you are getting the Master Collection at that price which I think would take another year.

I am of the mindset that if everyone were on the subscription, why would Adobe have to wait for a specific, timed release of a new version. They wouldn’t make anymore money on it because they would have everyone’s monthly subscription fees.

[Paul Neumann]

I have the CS6 Master Collection and have had a CS Collection of some sort since CS2. The Master Collection is far short of what you get with Creative Cloud subscription. With the subscription you now have access to everything Adobe releases, not so with physical discs.

I understand the reasoning for preferring to have the discs. The company I work for insists on the physical media (even though it’s more expensive than a monthly subscription). But to be honest, I’ve never handled the discs. Not once. I download the trial, they purchase the license, send me the SS# and the discs get sent to another place where they’re tagged and inventoried. I activate the trial and am on my way.

[Tom Daigon]

Michael H., the price I pay yearly is the upgrade price, not the full retail price. Ive owned CS software for the past 15 years. Your math just doenst work when you factor this in for users like me.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
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HP Z820 Dual 2687
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[Tom Daigon]

All I need is the Production Bundle so your first point is a moot one for users like me.

I have had to do re-installs due to several issues. Having media on hand expedites this process. Which is especially important if deadline are looming 😀

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Tom Daigon]

Michael G,as a beta tester in the past for Adobe and others, I can tell you that getting updates right away is not always a good thing. Living on the bleeding edge of new releases can have bad results sometimes. I prefer to wait a while before using any new release.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Jeff Pulera]

Hi Tom,

You can certainly purchase the Adobe Install Media for $25 if you want to have DVD hard copies of the software on hand.

As for the “rental”, not everyone can afford to lay out several hundred for an upgrade, or $1500 or $2000 at once to purchase, especially a small shop that needs multiple seats of the software. The Cloud deal allows the customer to budget a set monthly amount, and as mentioned, when a new version comes out, they have access!

I say “access” because you are not forced to upgrade right away, so if worried about bugs or you want to finish the current project before switching, you are free to do so and upgrade only when you are ready to then.

Also, if an editor leaves, business slows down, whatever, quit “renting” that seat then. You don’t have the investment in software sitting on the shelf if you are not using it. If a big job comes in and you want to hire some temporary help, add a seat for a few months.

So the upside is always having access to the latest software without having to purchase an upgrade, small monthly expense versus large outlay, and ability add/remove licenses as needed.

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers

[Tom Daigon]

[Jeff Pulera] “You can certainly purchase the Adobe Install Media for $25 if you want to have DVD hard copies of the software on hand.”

Jeff, does this statement apply to both the full purchase and the cloud rental situations?

I didnt think Adobe had discussed pricing or terms of use for CS Next yet.

Thanks for bringing up some other cogent points.Loosing the ability to edit if I stop renting just doesnt make sense to me if I can make a full purchase and continue editing with that version as long as I like.

As long as we all have options that fit our needs, all will be happy.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid