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Ok, I’ll ask again:
why panasonic chose not to develop quicktime codecs for dvcprohd@25fps & @50fps to be used with NLE’s like FCP in Europe?
If you would offer those codecs, people in Europe could buy your cameras. Now they don’t (at least as much) because lack of codecs cripples hvx badly. -
Considering how long we Europeans have been eg. without 4:2:0 chroma smoothing in FCP, why Panasonic chose not to develop dvcprohd@25p qt-codecs by itself and offer them to their customers (like me)?
This should have happen over a year ago… -
[Noah Kadner] “I couldn’t disagree more on the “abyssmal” comment regarding workflow going P2 to FCP. It’s incredibly simple and easy.”
It just doen’t exist with “PAL” framerates…And apple does not tell anything about future beforehand like usual and panny hasn’t commented any intention to make P2 Viewer for Os X or any timeframe for it.
Frustrating… -
700 bucks (HD Log Gold) is quite much for ability to easy deleting…
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You can always open terminal and delete everything with sudo command.
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[Uli Plank] “No support from Apple for 25p or 50p, not even a defined schedule.”
I’m also one of those not so satisfyed Europeans that bought hvx in a good faith that apple or panny would offer codecs for it in fcp.
Neither of them did. Maybe I’ll have to sell the camera. For now I will think very carefully before I buy anything from panny ever again and if I’ll have to sell the camera, I won’t even touch anything from panny again…Panny Europe’s service is unbelievable.
I asked about this codec issue in 31st of March in their forum.
Got e-mail 21st of April and made additional questions 26th of April.
Maybe I’ll get the answer in June… -
[Mike Schrengohst] “You might see a working Prototype NAB 2007. And yes by then the HD technology will catch up. And P2 cards in a year will be half of what they are now.”
As you propably know, RED should be shipping December this year.
And hard disks will also get cheaper and bigger in a year and they will be a lot cheaper and bigger than solid state for at least a decade. -
Thanks for the info, Steve!
Here we have existing AVC profiles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVCIn ISO standard, “High 10” is 4:2:0 only. Are you finally changing to lower chroma resolution?
Where do you basis the efficiency of “High 10” i-frame only (other than being 4:2:0 compared to dvcprohd’s 4:2:2)?
Isn’t High10’s i-frame almost identical to mpeg2 i-frame?
Adaptive macroblocking doesn’t make very big difference in i-frames, does it?Why didn’t you choose any modern wavelet based codec for your new format?
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[Chris Baldwin] “Perhaps you mistyped but I was referring to the XDCAM HD 35Mbps Long GOP not their Prosumer HDV codec. I’m still looking for a way of viewing side by side footage before and after compositing. Or I’m still looking for an objective set of data that says one thing is better than another in these situations but not these.”
Xdcam hd is just plain old mpeg2. You can just capture something uncompressed or with little compression (digibeta, dvcpro50) and compress it to mpeg2.
Calculate the datarate (bytes/pixels/second) to same than in xdcamhd and judge with your eyes.
I find the biggest problem with interframe compression acquisition that some areas in the picture can chenge from frame to frame even if they should be the same.
So the compression creates some motion in the frame every now and then.
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[Mike Schrengohst] ” I will plunk money down for RED when I see it. And $17,500 is just for the body, add Lens the only one they announced is a 300MM for $5000
Storage ?? -$1000-$10,000 And the other stuff Batteries etc, I think people were saying $40,000 for everything.”And what have the other companies used to offer with that price?
2/3″ sd camera with tape drive.
And now they are replacing them with heavily compressed hd with 8bit colors.
RED is revolution compared to these.And RED will record to 2.5″ hard drives. Which ones do you think will be more expensive: hard drives than p2 cards?