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  • P2 VIEWER FOR MAC!

    Posted by David Garcia on April 30, 2006 at 6:21 pm

    Um… I was anxiously awaiting NAB after Jan’s comments on this forum. I was hoping to see a FCP or quicktime revision that would handle MXF natively. Nope.

    What did we get? HD LOG. It looks like a repurposed older software from some company in Indiana. It costs $800!!!

    Does anybody else think Panasonic needs to buy the code from these guys and make this thing a free download? This is totaly rediculous. After buying our P2 stores and our 4 $600 P2 cards I’m not interested in spending another $800 for a f*&$in utility that Panasonic should have worked out.

    In contrast I got to check out XDCAM at the apple display. THey have a free utility that WORKS WITH MAC! It is smooth, fast, and well thought out. The media is $30.

    I love the pictures from my two HVXs. The workflow with FCP is completely Abysmal.

    Anxiously waiting for Panasonic to finish R&D on P2,

    David

    david garcia
    Halflife* Digital
    albuquerque, nm

    Shane Ross replied 19 years, 11 months ago 13 Members · 23 Replies
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  • Roddy Jamieson

    April 30, 2006 at 7:29 pm

    Well said!

    Roddy Jamieson

  • Gary Brown

    April 30, 2006 at 8:24 pm

    HD Log Gold is $700, not $800. And I suspect that things may still improve.

    – Gary
    Imagine Products, Inc.

  • Noah Kadner

    May 1, 2006 at 12:22 am

    Couldn’t agree more that HD Log is quite overpriced. It’s not Panny’s problem though- they are not in the software biz. At this point HD Log will sell only to those people who truly require what it does for now and everyone else will do fine with the import capabilities of FCP or migrate to Canopus.

    Imagine Products has two choices- drop their price drastically- say to $99 and they’ll sell a lot of it. Or wait and either be purchased by Apple or be supplanted by similar import features likely to appear in the next major revision of FCP.

    However- I couldn’t disagree more on the “abyssmal” comment regarding workflow going P2 to FCP. It’s incredibly simple and easy. The main drawback is you lose a good chunk of your metadata. But compared to tape capture, you’re getting everything you’re used to getting and your getting it without logging and capturing. Pretty much point and click importing faster than tape capture ever was. And this is just the start of FCP’s P2 import support so give Apple a little time to catch up with feature requests, etc.

    Bottom line: if you need what HD Log does right now but feel it is way overpriced for what it does, let the folks at Imagine Products know. It’s not Panasonic’s job to fix prices of 3rd party software:

    https://www.imagineproducts.com/contact.htm

    -Noah

  • Mike Schrengohst

    May 1, 2006 at 1:31 am

    Or get a cheap PC for the same price! The P2 viewer is free for the PC. Use it all the time and I edit on FCP.

    Mike Schrengohst
    http://www.MotionZoneHD.com

  • Shane Ross

    May 1, 2006 at 1:33 am

    Workflow is smooth as silk. Just do the steps properly and you are good to go.

    I also wanted to say that yes, they are overpriced. I would be willing to pay $99 I think they will sell TONS if it was that price.

    I have the guys card. I’ll let him know.

    Shane

    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Toke

    May 1, 2006 at 2:07 pm

    [Noah Kadner] “I couldn’t disagree more on the “abyssmal” comment regarding workflow going P2 to FCP. It’s incredibly simple and easy.”
    It just doen’t exist with “PAL” framerates…

    And apple does not tell anything about future beforehand like usual and panny hasn’t commented any intention to make P2 Viewer for Os X or any timeframe for it.
    Frustrating…

  • Noah Kadner

    May 1, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    Wow- did you almost miss pointing that out yet again? Whew!

  • Jan Crittenden livingston

    May 1, 2006 at 5:37 pm

    [david garcia] “I was anxiously awaiting NAB after Jan’s comments on this forum. I was hoping to see a FCP or quicktime revision that would handle MXF natively. Nope.

    What did we get? HD LOG. It looks like a repurposed older software from some company in Indiana. It costs $800!!!”

    David,

    Sorry to hear that you feel that the native handling of the MXF files by the HD Log are not what you are looking for. Perhaps to you it looks like a repurposed piece of software, but to me it answers one of the top 10 questions about archive. To me it seemed to be a natural and frankly I am disappointed that the software is not available on a PC.

    And BTW it is not $800, it is $700, but I hear what you are saying, you don’t want to spend that. Well then your only other choice is to wait for the import of the files into FCP.

    I happen to think the HD Log is very slick as it is more than a P2 viewer.

    Best,

    Jan

    Jan Crittenden Livingston
    Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
    Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

  • Tim Martin

    May 1, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    Luckily we have individuals like Anders Holck writing apps like P2 Genie for us. Can’t wait for it too ship (it’s in Final Beta) and he’s announced that it will only be

  • Shane Ross

    May 1, 2006 at 9:53 pm

    The P2 Genie isn’t viewing software, nor logging software. Merely a script for dumping contents of the card to an external drive. A very hadny application, but Apples and Oranges when compared to the P2 Viewer for Mac. It is HD Log modified, and has a lot of powerful features aside from the ability to view the MFX files without importing or converting to anything.

    Shane

    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

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