[Sylke Froechtenigt]

How about pre-composing some layers?

Sylke Froechtenigt, video editor
Kavanagh Productions Inc.
New York

[Sylke Froechtenigt]

I hope I understand you correctly – if not disregard this answer.

You have the Logo AI file open in Illustrator and also open your After Effects project with a new layer in your comp selected. You click on the bezier shape of the logo in Illustrator with the full arrow selection tool. Then copy (command + c, or control + c) then switch to AE and paste (command + v) into the layer, the bezier shape appears as a mask and you can add effect “stroke” (you maybe want to set it to “transparent” in the effect settings)

Sylke

Sylke Froechtenigt, video editor
Kavanagh Productions Inc.
New York

[Sylke Froechtenigt]

My fix: control click into the top left part of your timeline, maybe on the word “Source Name” Then there pops up a window with “hide this” and “rename this” (grey) and “columns”. Move the cursor over columns and you can alternate the view for the timeline, enable “Switches” and this should do it. I hope.

Sylke Froechtenigt, video editor
Kavanagh Productions Inc.
New York

[Sylke Froechtenigt]

Dave,

I don’t think that the stock clip, I used, has been shot with a DSLR camera and if so, it has been converted into 29.97 before I touched it, at least this is what the AE info says about this clip as well as the QT Movie Inspector.

I downloaded this clip from the stock footage library Pond5, which works similiar like istock (a crowd sourcing type of library) and the codec they require when someone uploads HD footage to their site is Photo Jepg – that’s why this clip is not in any other (maybe more common) codec like Apple ProRes etc.

My problem seems to be an incompatibility between my AE render and the Avid. I don’t see those duplicated frames viewing the render in QT or AE itself, so I have to ask Avid about it.

Thank you,

Sylke

Sylke Froechtenigt, video editor
Kavanagh Productions Inc.
New York

[Sylke Froechtenigt]

Dave and Kevin,

I appreciate your thoughts on this.

The 709 standard refers to importing HD footage – and doesn’t really matter when importing SD into the Avid.

Interestingly, when creating a new project in the Avid (MC Adrenaline, which I just upgraded from v1.6 to v2.8), it gives me three different NTSC options: 23.976p , 24p and 30i. I never really thought about it, I lived always (since years:( in the assumption that NTSC is 29.97i and so are my Avid projects, but maybe that’s not the case…

I probably now should go back in AE, and first try to re-create the error, then change the frame rate of everything to 30, and then render and import again.

Only 2 of my partial renders of the same composition have been affected by this – different from each other: one is 1:13 and one is 3:20 in between the duplicated frame – all other partial renders are fine.

It’s difficult to nail things down, when the problems are intermittent…

I’ll call Avid about it, maybe setting up everything to 30i in AE would prevent this from happening in the future.

Thanks,

Sylke

Sylke Froechtenigt, video editor
Kavanagh Productions Inc.
New York

[Sylke Froechtenigt]

Thanks a lot – Dave and Kevin!

I did the test to bring the original render back in AE – and – wow – there are no duplicated frames in AE ! Then there must be something happening when importing into the Avid!

I imported the same clip again in the Avid – the one that had a duplicated frame every 1 sec 13 frames before – and the duplicated frame shifted for about 1 frame, the temporal pattern of 1:13 stayed the same.

My import settings are 601/709, non- square/ RGB/ Field order: Even (lower field first)

I created the comp with NTSC/D1 and I rendered with Animation Codec – best Quality (Quicktime)

I used one HD stock clip with the codec “Apple Photo Jpeg” (29.97 framerate) but only 6 sec. I don’t know enough about this codec, whether each frame is an index frame or not. What you, Dave, write about mpegs makes sense to me, and I will be aware to convert footage before using in AE in the future.

But here it seems to be an Avid Import issue. Does anybody know what I could do different?

(I will also try to bring the footage into FCP and see if this makes any difference)

Thanks,

Sylke

Sylke Froechtenigt, video editor
Kavanagh Productions Inc.
New York

[Sylke Froechtenigt]

I had the same problem.
I have an AJA IO HD and used it to output the video preview to an HD monitor when I worked with After Effects.

My solution:
In After Effects I went in Preferences/Video Preview and changed the Output Device to what ever I want to use when not the AJA IO HD – that fixed it for me.

Sylke Froechtenigt, video editor
Kavanagh Productions Inc.
New York