[Steven Pukin]

I’m watching the exported DVD on a standalone DVD player connected to a TV using RCA video cables.

Steven

[Steven Pukin]

Thanks. I think this just might work. I will have to render it out to see though.

About modifying keyframes on After Effects, they seem to not be as straightforward as the ones in Premiere Pro. I don’t know, maybe I just am more comfortable with the way they are laid out in Premiere Pro. What I ultimately want to do is have the “INSERT GENERIC FILM TITLE” at slow down, freeze in the middle and fade to black after a few seconds. So I am going to try and do that in premiere instead. I once posted in the AE forum about this, and then they went off on me, saying I should look at the help files (which I did) and how all the rest of them are experts…Anyways, it’s too much of a headache.

There is also the issue of slowing down the roll (even the slowest roll seems-100 pixels per sec for Boris Title Crawl, is a little faster than typical film credit rolls). I was thinking that I could try slowing down the exported credits video in premiere pro a little bit. But I am concerned that might end up causing the credits to look degraded in some fashion. If you have any experience in this, let me know.

I will give it a try I guess to see what happens. Otherwise, I will leave well enough alone and just deal with the credits the way they are.

anyways, I will let you know how the credits turned out the way you described. Sometimes it’s hard to convey exactly what you want. My explanations seem to always come out convuluted haha.

[Steven Pukin]

Yes, you can create text within the Boris Title Crawl window. You go to effects control where you would adjust such things as speed, but then you can either hit options or a large graphic that says “Boris Title Crawl} and smaller graphic beside it saying “Boris Title Tool Kit”. I double click on it, and I can type or insert and modify the text, the font I am using, the justification, the shadow, the size of the text, etc.

Anyways, I rendered what I did and it no longer seems to have that problem with the last portion of right hand column credits freezing at the edge of the frame. I am not sure, but the alignment between the columns might be still a pixel or two off, but I am not sure if it’s noticeable. Maybe I am just being paranoid. Everything within each column is aligned (unlike the way I was doing credits previously) but as I said the right and left hand columns might be slightly disaligned.

If I am reading this correctly, are you proposing that I don’t use a center column at all but just use tabs to center it in either the left or right column? I have already made left-justified (for the right) and right-justified columns (for the left). Forgive me if I am confusing your words. I don’t mean to sound as dense as I probably seem ;).

[Steven Pukin]

The Boris title crawl option allows me to choose the speed, the type of credits (which I choose as roll), just like you and I also modified the geometry along the x-axis so they wouldn’t overlap onto eachother. None of the text is on the text layer itself but rather in the Boris title crawl that is on top of it (you can import text from a word processor and change the font, bolding, etc from the Boris toolkit, which seems to be similar to what you are doing, just with different terminology).

[Steven Pukin]

I think I have Boris FX if I remember correctly. What I do is put down three text layers (before I was using adjustment layers in the first credit roll I created). Then for each layer, I right click ‘effects’, scroll down and it to ‘Boris’–>Text Scrambler, Title Crawl, Vector Shape, Vector Text (I choose title crawl) and I after that it seems like what we are doing is fairly similar. I using the plugin for Adobe After Effects 6.5 on my PC.

The center column only continues after the left and right hand column, but it actually starts before they do (but I sent that the lengths as the same, except there is empty spaces in those layers until text pops in them). For example: Cast (in order of appearance) would be the first thing you see in the center columns, than the characters/actors would be in their respective columns below that, then next time you would see text in the center column would be for ‘Crew’ and so forth.

[Steven Pukin]

Ok, I am not sure but I think I got to work without adjusting the y-axis or margins as I had done before. But I couldn’t simply hit return to make them aligned, I had to fool around with it a little bit to make it aligned. In previous attempts to align, I had to make the right hand column have a y-axis value of 245 instead of 240. My second attempt was to make the top margin for that layer as 19 instead of 24, but that didn’t work as I mentioned.

What I ended up doing is removing the spaces below the text for each of the left and right hand column (for Boris title crawl) but since there was more text in the right hand columns, they were misaligned, so I had to try I do hit return a few times so they would be aligned.

Essentially the problem is this. the left and right hand columns (which use their own independent boris title crawls and text layers), end before the center layer ends.

For example: Credits by (in the left hand column); meanwhile my name is the right hand column, aligned with ‘Credits by’ and directly below on the next line is my brother’s name.

Then the center column continues a few spaces down with “shot on location….copyright 2005…..and then the name of the film to end”. It appears that the text layers have all the same lengths (0:00:0-0:41:29) but what do you mean by containers? So I don’t know the lingo that well, as I am learning this as I go. Do you mean each individual Boris title toolkit layer-one for each column?). Wouldn’t make the left and right hand columns as long as the center column put the columns out of alignmen?(considering the last left or right hand column text ends before the centered title end)

It remains be seen whether or not I will still have the same problem with a right hand column that seems to freeze at the top edge of the screen until the center column roll is done. If you can offer me any more insights before I render this again, let me know.

thanks,
David

[Steven Pukin]

Hi. I tried your suggestion and worked for the most part, except there seems to be a lag when one of the layers text ends. It’s hard to explain but I originally had to modify the y-axis on one of them so the text would be aligned between the two columns (for some reason a centre layer of text I added seem to affect the other two columns alignment). Than I remembered what you said. So I tried modifying the margin for the right hand column instead and returned the y-axis values to normal, so the left and right hand column would stay in alignment. But still, my right hand column text layer seems to linger until the rest of the credits are done, even though the rest of it is just text on the center layer.

Any suggestions?

[Steven Pukin]

Sorry when I posted this, I didn’t realize it didn’t keep the formatting as I was writing it quickly. Essentially I would like to know if it’s possible have a single layer or two layers that combine to represent two columns of rolling credits. On the left columns would be names of characters (right justified), and on the right column, there would be left justified text. The end result would be a space between two columns in the exact center of the credits, which would be maintained throughout the credits (just like many Hollywood film credits). Is this is possible?

[Steven Pukin]

Printing to video, from the timeline playback it looks fine.

Steven

[Steven Pukin]

I would like to know about this as well. I can’t seem to find the proper settings to change this.