[Steve Connor]

[David Lawrence] “[Steve Connor] “David, why would you want the clips connected to the gap?”

To create a sync relationship between those two clips only. I don’t want their sync relationship defined or affected by other clips in the storyline.”

Then move one of the clips to the primary storyline

[David Lawrence] “[Steve Connor] “Their relationship with each other stays the same.”

Not exactly. In your example at 0:15, moving the clips down the storyline changes the connection of two of them to a clip on the storyline. Their relationship is now tied to that clip. What if that’s not my intention?

Do the relationships defined by clip connections matter? If so then your demo fails because it defines the wrong relationship between primary and connected clips when the connected clips are repositioned.”

See previous point.

[David Lawrence] “[Steve Connor] “I’m afraid your “proof” video only shows a lack of understanding about how you edit in FCPX, you don’t work with gaps in that way”

Overwrite Trim notwithstanding, I think I understand FCPX just fine. The problem is that the timeline object model is inconsistent, and in the case of my example, destructive.

The timeline is always rippling. That’s what makes it magnetic.
“

Once again your example shows that you don’t understand how to edit in FCPX, the fact you didn’t know about overwrite trim shows this. The timeline is NOT always rippling, you are wrong.

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

David, why would you want the clips connected to the gap? Their relationship with each other stays the same.

I’m afraid your “proof” video only shows a lack of understanding about how you edit in FCPX, you don’t work with gaps in that way

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

[David Lawrence] “Trimming in the storyline is always ripple trim. If you don’t want to ripple, you have to trim the gap object.

For example, let’s say I want to trim back a clip left without affecting program length. The only way to do this is by performing a rolling trim with the gap to the right.
“

Simply not true, watch the end of my example video where you can see overwrite trims over gap clips

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

[David Lawrence] “Gaps are objects with the same object behaviors as clips. They hold sync for connected clips. You can’t ignore them, you have to deal with them.

Here’s a simple example, in case you missed it:”

You CAN ignore them, is this what you were trying to do in your example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf4tA9B3XsQ&feature=youtu.be

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

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[Steve Connor]

Thanks Simon, another handy effect!

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

Unfortunately you do have to shoot at a much higher frame rate if you want to go down to that low a speed, even Twixtor wouldn’t help

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

[David Lawrence] “That’s wrong Steve.

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/17555“

It’s not David, I know it’s one of your issues, but the fact is that gap clips are the only thing that ripple.

When you are familiar with the way the software works, and I know we’ve already had a huge debate about this, you IGNORE gap clips when using the position tool, you don’t touch them, you don’t trim them, they are simply spacers, you have no need to interact with them at all. You treat them the same as gaps on a Legacy storyline.

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

Just a side note, I went into my local Apple Store yesterday and they still have Mac Pros on display, hopefully a good sign!

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

[Oliver Peters] “No custom layouts for anything.
No batch export and the workflow benefits it can provide.
No QT reference exports and the workflow benefits it can provide.
Lack of mixer panel and track-based versus clip-based mixing (you had an option in “Legacy”).
Unified viewer.
Lack of I/O for industry-accepted metadata formats (EDL, XML, ALE, FCP Batch Lists, Tab Delimited, etc.)
Emphasis on metadata-based logging without the option to effectively and extensively use manual logging and organization methods.
No manual relinking and the workflow benefits it can provide.

That’s just the short list.”

Fair point , we all know what it’s lacking, but it is incorrect to state FCPX offers you forces you into ONE workflow

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Steve Connor]

[Gary Huff] “Seriously? Because you only have that magnetic timeline and no option to turn on a second viewer. That’s pretty significant right there.
“

Using the Position tool turns the magnetic timeline off leaving you free to place, move and trim clips on the timeline without ripple.

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television