Shawn Miller
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[James Culbertson] “Well, now you know one at least. There are quite a few of us using it. Most folks I know who use it don’t talk much about it because of all the past judgement around it.”
I guess it is all in who you know. 🙂
[James Culbertson] “My understanding from talking to a couple of freelancers who work at Microsoft Studios is that they have already or are in the process of switching to Premiere. Just talked to one colleague who worked over there a week or so ago who said he had used Premiere on a project (his first Premiere gig ever). I don’t know how to reconcile that with your perspective…”
Maybe it’s just timing? I was there in September and one of the Producers was telling us that they were replacing FCP7 with Avid. Maybe they changed course… not unusual for MS. I’m actually surprised that they’re going with PPro, since they were all Avid before FCP and they’re such a strong Pro Tools shop… unless that’s changes too. 🙂
Shawn
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[James Culbertson] “No requests yet for Premiere (or MC). I do hear it is being used more extensively at Microsoft Studios. But I have not heard of many using Premiere around here otherwise. I’m figuring I will have to learn Premiere at some point, but I am not drawn to it like I am FCPX and the comfort of FCP7.”
Really? I’ve been doing corporate work in the area for over a decade, and Premiere has always been been pretty poplar here, mostly because of the Creative Suite. MS Studios had been a strong Avid/FCP7 house for a long time, but I understand they’ve switched over to Avid exclusively with the EOL of FCP7… same with Amazon and Victory Studios. Even the smaller agencies and freelancers I know are switching to Avid or PPro… I don’t anyone using FCPX at the moment. Not saying that no one is… I just haven’t seen it.
Shawn
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[Joseph Owens] “Seems like it borrows a lot from a planar tracking application whose name tastes like a blend of chocolate and coffee.”
Really, why do you say that? Rotobrush doesn’t seems remotely like Mocha IMO.
Shawn
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Shawn,
While I’m not exactly an advocate of the rental model, one of it’s aspects is you could actually only pay for it while you use it. (Note, the rates are higher, but it should be considered.)
Franz.”
That is a good point, Franz. But if I’m not working, and I still want/need to do unpaid work (updating my demo reel, doing volunteer work, etc), then CC continues to be a cost. With the perpetual license, I can at least work with an ‘outdated’ version of the software until my next paying gig.
IMO, the subscription model seems like it could be a huge benefit to medium and large post houses. I actually like the idea of being able to scale seats up or down according to workload… I’m just not sure it makes as much sense for individual artists… well, not for me at least. 🙂
Shawn
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[David Lawrence] “[Chris Harlan] “Me three.”
Me four. Here’s why I’ll never rent software:
https://www.larryjordan.biz/app_bin/wordpress/archives/2015
Larry fully admits to his mistakes but even so, he should not have been exposed to this kind of risk.”
Totally agree, on top of the potential activation issues, I don’t want to take the hit of another monthly expense when and if I’m not working. I don’t like the idea of my software costing me money when it isn’t being used.
Shawn
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[Oliver Peters] “Go back and look again. There’s an FX plug-in architecture, color correction, node-based compositing and mixing capabilities. It can master to AVC-Intra with the $60/year Pro version. Add to that multi-cam and stereo3D and this certainly makes it far more than a basic editor for 90% of the work most editors do. Plus they will preview a Mac version at NAB.”
I didn’t know about the node based compositing… that is worth a look.
Shawn
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “Also – seriously – has anyone really tried the warp stabiliser here, because that thing is crazy good. I mean outright surreal good.”
Yes, I first started to rely on it in AE. When Adobe added it to PPro, I was over the moon. You’re right, WS is insanely good.
Shawn
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Amazing.
Shawn
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[Oliver Peters] “And speaking of Premiere Pro, these guys are an Avid DS house:
https://tv.adobe.com/watch/customer-stories-video-film-and-audio/kappa-studi...”
That was just cool… I always love to see people do amazing work with relatively simple, off the shelf tools. 1.3 billion views online… wow.
Shawn
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[Chris Kenny] “[Shawn Miller] “So… are you calling me a liar then? Not sure what this comment is about.”
I think you’re advocating a particular position.”
By sharing my experiences of installing the Creative Suite on multiple machines? What on Earth would I have to gain from lying about that?
[Chris Kenny] “[Shawn Miller] “However, if you’re talking about FCPX in relation to the Creative Suite, then you’re making a case for the Creative Suite. ”
Only if you think Jobs was making a case for traditional PCs.”
I’m just pointing out that you made a good use case for the Creative Suite (see below).
[Chris Kenny] “…because higher end video workflows often involve the use of multiple tools, so you don’t necessarily need a ‘heavy’ tool that does everything.”
[Chris Kenny] “[Shawn Miller] “For the aspiring artist who wants to explore motion graphics, VFX and editing, can FCPX match the same capability/value as the Creative Cloud subscription? ”
The question is stacking the deck.”
So the answer is no then. Although, your answer really should have been something like “The combination of FCPX and the Creative Cloud subscription can provide a powerful set of tools that aspiring and seasoned professionals can benefit from equally.” or something like that.
Just so you understand, Chris. I’m not an advocate or a surrogate for Adobe, Microsoft, Maxon, Next Limit or anyone. I use excellent tools made by these companies, but I’m not a partisan. I think Apple makes fantastic products, and FCPX most likely has a bright future ahead of it.
Thanks,
Shawn