Scott Sheriff
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Brandon,
This is what you said in your original post regarding the use of a 13″ MBP for RED footage post:What is the best way to set this up for Editing and Color correction?
Now you are saying your not finishing the project on the MBP? Hmm…
“but I have work being played in the Los Angeles market curently(sic) but am usually no on the Post side of things.”
So what? Is that supposed to establish your ‘cred’?
The geographic region your grip work, or whatever, has no bearing on editing experience, which seems to be the crux of the discussion here.
You and I cross posted, but I will paraphrase what I said in the other post.
I think a client with an investment as big as a RED project, even if it is commercial length, deserves someone with experience, and proper equipment, and it sounds like you have neither. Give the gig to someone else in your area that does have the gear and experience, and ask to be their assistant on the project.I know you don’t like the answers you are getting here, and since your ‘work’ is being played in LA, you will probably not follow any advice given here.
But when you are asking how to build a how to build a house, with nothing more than a ‘Swiss army knife’ for a tool box, you should expect some sarcasm.Scott Sheriff
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And let me anticipate your next comment:
“Yeah, I know, that’s how it’s SUPPOSED to be done, but I’m looking for a cheaper entry-level system just to get me started.”
$20K *IS* the cheaper entry-level system.
Mark,
I think your right on the money there, no pun intended.And Brandon,
Sarcasm aside.
Honestly, if your on a budget that can only afford a 13″MBP, the thing to do would be to pass the RED editing gig on to someone else that has a proper system, and perhaps ask to be their assistant on the project.
Also, your post seems to point to the fact you don’t have much editing experience, and a large RED camera project is not an entry level, or even mid-level project, and the clients best interest really needs to be considered here.Scott Sheriff
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I am purchasing a new 13″ Macbook Pro this week (assuming the new Macbooks are relased(sic) this week like reports are saying). What is the best way to set this up for Editing and Color correction?
The best thing to do, is to return the MBP if you have already bought it.
The next best thing to do is put it on Craigs list or Mandy if you can’t return it.You want to edit RED on a laptop, and CC on a 13″ screen?
Do some research, get some seat time before you jump in!
And then…
By a desktop system!
Chic’ laptops are for picking up hippy girls at coffee shops, or trying to impress the guy sitting next to you on the plane.
OK they may be good for client ‘show and tells’, or for field screening of dailies.Scott Sheriff
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Apple laid off a bunch of their FCP team so one wonders if they are done with improvements, or if it is minimal.
Avid got rid of three times the employees that Apple did, and that was a second round of lay-offs. But yet look at all the buzz about Avid at the show.
I don’t think you can read much into 40 guys being let go at Apple, or if that does/doesn’t mean a new version is coming.
We just got a new version less than a year ago, I think that is much more telling.Scott Sheriff
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People shoot 24fps for a couple of good reasons, and some poor reasons.
1. Same frame rate as film, and the project is going to film for distribution.
2. Going to distribute in international markets and domestic markets and they just want to start with a common frame rate.
3. To get a softer look to the material, and have it look less like video. There is some merit to this, but it still doesn’t look like film.
4. Because it is hip and trendy to shoot like film guys.
Scott Sheriff
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If you are delivering to broadcast, don’t shoot 24fps, shoot 30fps. If you shoot 24, you will have to add pulldown to convert it for SD broadcast. This is an unnecessary step you should avoid.
If your shooting for SD broadcast, and they want NTSC spec video, shoot 30fps, and use 480i frame size. That will not need any conversion.Scott Sheriff
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Hi,
The settings on the 110 can be confusing.
The 110U can shoot 24fps or 30fps(29.97). It can shoot in SD 480I, or HDV720P. It doesn’t shoot in 1080I native. You can shoot in 720P, and playback and it will convert it to 1080I on the output, but that isn’t the way to go. The cameras converter is probably not all that great. Anytime you increase frame size on a conversion, you loose quality.Since you want to go interlaced SD for broadcast, and progressive HD for the net you have a problem. This would be a piece of cake in Final Cut Pro. You would shoot 720P and transcode it to 480I for broadcast. Of course you would either have to center frame all the shots, or pan and scan them.
I don’t know the workflow for Premier, so its hard to say if it can do that, or how good it would look. Better to ask a Premier/AE guy. Since your broadcast has to have 480I, the easiest is to shoot that, and just put that on YT. IMHO doing an in camera upconvert to 1080i isn’t getting you anything. For HD, just stick with the native (720P) shoot and output.
You might want to post on a AE forum. If this situation is something that you are going to deal with a lot, you might think about going to Final Cut Pro.Scott Sheriff
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It would help if you could be more specific about the venue for your final product, since some outputs would favor one format vs another. It is best to shoot and post at settings that match your final output, and avoid transcoding whenever possible.
As far as recommending general 110 settings, IMHO 720P is better than 1080i. Interlace footage can be an artifact nightmare, since most places your footage might play will be progressive, and it will have to be converted. So, being progressive(720P), even at a smaller frame size will usually give better results. Unless your final output requires 24fps, I would stick with 30(29.97)fps. Once again, less atrifacts since removing/adding pulldown can cause problems. I know its really chic’ to shoot 24fps, but unless your going DI to film, stick with 30fps.
I’m a Final Cut guy, but in general terms your editing import/project settings should match your source footage. So with the settings I recommend, that would be HDV 720p 30/60Here is an example of a music vid shot with a 110U at 720P/30. This was posted with FCP 6
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Hi,
Check out the Contour Shuttle Xpress Jog wheel. You can get it from Apple, Amazon etc. Not quite as pricey, or nice as the MC Transport, but perfectly serviceable. As an ‘old school’ linear editor that was used to having a jogger, I put one on my system and its held up and worked well. Its USB, and it comes with software that has presets for most popular aps. You can also remap the functions to create special purpose set-ups, which might be of interest to you. There is a basic model (Xpress) and the Pro, which has a lot more programmable buttons, but is basically the same. The Xpress is around 50 bucks, so its not a huge investment in something you may be unsure about.https://retail.contourdesign.com/?/products/22
Scott Sheriff
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[Scott Sheriff] “The specs say no, both for FCS2 and 3.”
FC2 is Universal.
Works in PPC same than in Intel.
rafaelI knew that, it’s just the Ambien talking!
Scott Sheriff
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SST Digital Media
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