Ryan Wyler
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You were right… I think the first time I exported to Mpeg2 with compressor I didn’t have the “lower field” setup in the timebase in FInal Cut Pro I had “NONE”, and also I must have told compressor to compress to mpeg2 29.97 PROGRESSIVE instead of using “bottom field”. So I think that’s why it was looking so jacked up on my NTSC systems.
I ended up leaving everything in Final Cut Pro DVCPRO50 with the 24p NORMAL on a 29.97 timebase. When Exported to mpeg2, 29.97 fps, bottom field, it looks great on NTSC monitors and actually looks great on the laptop powerbook 15″ G4 laptop here. It sure was a touch lesson to learn that 24p NORMAL will never be progressive, it needs the interlacing to work. In the meantime we found a bug in compressor where it detects the wrong pulldown for 24p NORMAL DVCPRO50. I submitted a bug to apple, we’ll see if they resolve it.
Thanks all for your help, I’m a happy camper.
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In the assets area, you should have the sequence listed in there. Right mouse click (or CONTROL+CLICK) on the sequence name and select “Sequence Settings”. It’s all in there.
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My guess is you have your timeline setup as DV/DVCPRO not DVCPRO50. OR you have your timeline setup as a different timebase than what your footage was shot.
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Ok, now the ICING of the cake..
I’m going through exporting everything to “UNCOMPRESSED 10 bit 4:2:2” and it looks great at 10bit 4:2:2, but then to save disk space I’m converting it back to DVCPRO50 using Quicktime Pro 7. In doing this the picture on the DVCPRO50 appears to be “darker” than the Uncompressed 10bit 4:2:2. I can correct it by adding a gamma adjustment filter and setting it to around 0.84 or 0.83, but this is retarded. Why would converting from DVCPRO50 -> UNCOMPRESSED 10bit 4:2:2 -> DVCPRO50 result in a gamma change?
is this a quicktime dvcpro50 encoding problem??
Thanks.
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I’m not looking at it through an NTSC monitor from FCP, BUT frames C and D appear to look whack to me when watching burned on a DVD on an NTSC system.
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Well, I wouldn’t bother with the reverse telecine if the footage was working right. The problem is that the footage is looking TERRIBLE in 29.97. It looks jittery and gross because I’m getting two interlaced frames out of every 5 frames. I’m thinking Final Cut Pro is misinterrpreting the footage just like Cinema Tools is, so it’s doing it all wrong. So I’m guessing that once I get it to uncompressed FCP might start working better for me.
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WOW, that’s insane!!!
Well man, I owe you an iTunes $50 gift certificat.
Email me at: ryan ate bridgetone dought c0m
(Obfuscated for those spammer bots)I can’t imagine how much disk space two hours of uncompressed footage will take. Would there be much degregation in quality going from DVCPRO50 -> uncompressed -> reverse telcine -> DVCPRO50 ?
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Awesome, thanks!
Answer me this. How should footage that was captured 24p NORMAL (29.97fps) and reverse telecine look on a 23.98 timebase sequence? Should it be ALL progressive frames OR should it be three progressive frames and then ONE interlaced frame?
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I have now tried EVERY OPTION yet again for the 6th time. I have my CT options screen shots at this location:
https://bridgetone.com/tmp/24p/ct/No matter what I do it ends up looking TERRIBLE on a DVD or even in quicktime exports on the computer.
on a 23.98 timebase I Reverse Telecined the dvcpro50 footage down to 23.98 and every 4th frame is INTERLACED. From what I read this is expected. I don’t understand that. How is 24p supposed to be ‘three frames progressive and one interlaced frame’? That doesn’t make ANY SENSE. I tried picking different ‘A’ frames by moving to what I thought the ‘A’ frame was and exported, didn’t make a difference. I tried selecting varoius other frames as A frames, didn’t make a difference. I think cinema tools is picking the wrong A frame, but won’t let me select a different one no matter what I do.
This is killing me. I wish there was someone who could actually try to download that small clip I uploaded to my site and reverse telecine it, and see what I did wrong and try to get it progressive all the way across.
Small Clip: https://bridgetone.com/tmp/24p/Anyone who solves my problem, I’ll send them a $50 iTunes Gift Certificat.
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The footage was captured DVCPRO50 24p NORMAL, not advanced. From everything I have read you cannot reverse telecine 24p NORMAL footage. Now I don’t know why, but it just doesn’t seem to work right.
I am editing in a 29.97 timebase in FCP using the DVCPRO50 24p normal footage. I am seeing what appears to be 5 frames. 3 progressive, 2 interlaced frames. I posted a screenshot of Cinetools, 10 sequential frames, and a small clip of the DVCPRO50 footage in this directory looking for why this stuff isn’t working like everyone says it should.
https://bridgetone.com/tmp/24p/