Ron Lindeboom
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[Gav Bott] “In sports – it’s the ones that have trained, worked, practiced, and generally done more that tend to look “lucky.”
Succinct.
Perfect blend of sweetly balanced tartness with a near perfect after-palette.
Nice, Gav.
;o)
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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[Andy jackson] “I feel the only reason there is no honest negativity here by most of the cow leaders is due to the fact they do not want to upset and lose their advertising sponsors.”
Then I guess you missed it when I stood up to Apple, Autodesk and others and threw them out of the site when they tried to muscle me, eh? That was a while back so you likely were busy being so successful that you were predisposed counting your money or something.
I wrote my own rules for advertisers and did NOT follow any of the industry’s “norms.”
But you are free to think whatsoever you want. You should ask yourself though why you are so confident about your thoughts when you are admittedly not doing anywhere near as good as the people you are criticizing?
Just a thought…
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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You cannot and do not address any of the other comments I rebutted to POINTS YOU MADE and now rather just dive into the intellectual safety of the gray area of “luck,” eh?
Not a very worthy debate, Scott.
I notice that you did the same “ignore the points you raised which we addressed” response to Walter Soyka, me and others here. You like to raise points but you aren’t so good about staying within the lines that you yourself draw, when others respond to your points. Sigh…
As for luck, the old adage goes: “Time and chance happen to us all.” It’s what you do about it that separates the men from the boys.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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[Scott Sheriff] “I would point out something Ron wrote to Andy, “So please go away and make room for those who can listen and learn. You are beyond help.” Not trying to single out Ron. There were other snarky remarks. But I would debate the necessity of this type of comment at all.”
I notice Scott that you didn’t bother to quote ALL (or even any) of my copious lead-up and the reasons for what I said to Andy. It was hardly baseless and by the time I got to that part of my comments, I had laid out quite a breadcrumb trail of both the nasty things that Andy had said to people, as well as many of the people and the comments they made trying to help him. He wanted none of it and just insulted them as delusional (and you add the further insult in your reply to Walter Soyka by calling them “fearful and just whistling in the graveyard”). He also called many here not only delusional but “in denial” that the industry was “doomed.” The industry is definitely in transition and flux but doomed is a pretty bold statement. Yes, people will get hurt without a doubt. The market will bring new people to the fore while some will fall by the wayside. It has always been like this and it looks like Andy is well on his way to becoming one of them.
Do I wish that on him? No. But after 17 years of building forums, I can spot someone on the way up and someone on the way out, pretty easily at this point. I do not believe that any of the others here wish Andy to fail either. But after many have tried to help, he just spits in their faces and kicks them in the teeth with his remarks that they are delusional and in denial. You reduced them to whistlers in the graveyard, offering platitudes. Want proof, read on…
[Scott Sheriff] “To paraphrase something I said to Andy, I can’t believe the lengths that many will go through to help undeserving noobs that are too lazy to RTFM, and for guys like him, the best we can offer is platitudes and condescension.”
Your chide us for what your see as undeserved remarks but you yourself cite “noobs” as “undeserving”? How do you decide who is deserving and who isn’t? Just curious about your yardstick.
Then you add your own insults, Scott — taking things that people have learned at great cost to themselves over a period of years and which some offered point-by-point for free — yet you reduce it to platitudes? Good grief, excuse me for noticing but these two fall under the classic definition of a hypocrite. And you wish to feign that we are the ones doing the insulting? (Boomer shakes his head here in disbelief.)
[Scott Sheriff] “Aren’t we supposed to be the professionals? I wonder when was the last time anyone of the ‘big guns’ with all the work turned someone on to a client, some overflow work, or a gig they didn’t have time for?”
Do you have the slightest idea of how much great paying work that Kathlyn and I have farmed out over the years? Without even asking for or getting a single dime back in referral fees or commissions? You need to stop judging others by what you think is true and maybe learn from some of those who are being quite successful in trying times and who are trying to help others.
Are times bad? You bet. Is the industry in transition and a heavy period of flux? Without a doubt.
But you insult people with attributing it mostly to luck. Wow. Do you even know what it’s like to build a magazine when you’ve had 20 years of ear infections and multiple bouts of pneumonia and do it all without money (if we had screwed up once, the COW wouldn’t be here today), without insurance and without the aid of antibiotics because they quit working about 6 or 7 years ago. Where is luck in THAT picture? — and since you seem to have all of the answers and don’t want platitudes, I will cite one anyway: good things come to those who wait. Not most of the time. I opt for get in the ring and quit doing the same thing over and over that isn’t working and yet you keep doing it expecting a different outcome. Einstein said to repeat the same thing that didn’t work expecting it to suddenly start working is insanity.
Since you guys don’t mind calling us fearing delusional people with no answers and just offering platitudes as we whistle our way through the graveyard in the dark, please accept my post as no more or less than exactly what you and Andy Jackson have done in this thread.
Don’t like it? As I said, I stay out of this stuff and only jump in maybe once every year or two — maybe three. This is really rare but when I read this thread and the callous disrespect that you and Andy are giving some great people here who have written in-depth answers based on their experience — things that work which you call nothing more than platitudes — don’t be surprised that you became the recipient of this year’s singular “visit” by me.
And no, I am not whistling in any graveyard because I am not fearful and I would hardly call hard lessons learned, platitudes.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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[Andy jackson] “It seems I am getting alot of flack from various members for my opinions. Some seem to be getting very personal.”
If you wish to avoid personal jabs, Andy, you might try actually interacting respectfully with those who have been trying to help you see more than the perspective you seem unwilling to modify.
Some people went to great length to lay out chapter and verse of the points they were presenting and in most every case that I saw, you didn’t even dignify them with a response. Rather, you looked for the simple “I’m telling you it’s going to hell” exchanges, so that you could jump right back into the rut and keep the bitchfest going.
Then you made quite a few personal jabs calling people delusional and other such not-quite-pats-on-the-back remarks questioning even their understanding of this industry.
It has always befuddled me how some people feel they have a God-given right to do stuff like that but when you call them on it, they hate it and get all “martyr” on you and turn the bitchfest into a sobfest. I just shake my head at it…
You are free to think what you like but that doesn’t always make it so.
Some people here gave you GREAT and VALUABLE advice that you scorned like it came with herpes.
You do not really want to change your outlook, you really just want people to agree with your views and are adamant that they should. It isn’t going to happen here, that much I can guarantee you.
And as for LUCK being the great arbiter of who succeeds and who doesn’t: after three bouts of pneumonia, with fried lungs so bad that afterwards I’d get the flu for three to four months and I had no money and no savings and no insurance and nothing left to act on — I’ll tell you, to quote Booker T’s great old blues song, “Born Under a Bad Sign,” I will tell you that I felt just like that song, which laments: “If it wasn’t for bad luck, I wouldn’t have no luck at all.”
But life is hard and I don’t lay down for it — at least not for long. You have to look for an answer to find one and that is something that not everyone is open to. Some just want to complain and find those willing to agree with them. The COW has never really been that kind of place. Sorry.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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I am rude because I call you on all of the haughty disrespect that you have had for one person after another in this entire exchange? I have noticed that in this entire thread, you have insulted nearly everyone who doesn’t agree with your way of thinking, even calling them delusional and other derogatory labels you feel free to use.
You have refused to even consider or in any way respond to some of the most thoughtful and helpful people who have offered many ideas from their own experience as to ways and means to reinvent oneself in this industry — people like Bob Zelin, Craig Seeman, Mark Suszko and others come to mind and there are many others.
I find you so disingenuous and condescending to anyone who isn’t espousing and regurgitating your point of view that I do not really care if you find my words callous or rude. As I have followed and considered this thread, I have found you so rude that I finally just had to step in here and call you on it. I do not do that kind of thing except maybe once every year or two or three — I think you are in one of my currently two or three year cycles. So welcome to that select small group.
And I will stand by my words: no matter what success you may have had in the past, you are 100% guaranteed to fail with your current attitude. If that offends you, I do not know what to do about that other than to remind you that I have been doing forums communities for over 17 years now and I have a pretty good idea of watching the ones on their way up — as well as how to spot those on their way out. You, Mr. Andy Jackson, are wearing the t-shirt of the latter club.
That you have succeeded in the past, I am happy for you. Congratulations. But with your current attitude that winning streak will not continue. That is a given.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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[Andy jackson] “Need to keep up with the cows members who are still in denial that the industry is doomed!!”
Andy,
You think so small and you are already beaten, so it comes as no surprise to me to find that you cannot make things work. Of course you can’t, you have yourself convinced that there is no answer and so you cannot find one.
I ran out of money many years ago. Lost all of my clients when I had pneumonia three times in a 24 month period. Almost died and had no business left when I finally began to get better. Had no money in the bank left, no insurance and no retirement left. Everything was gone.
But I am NEVER beaten because there is ALWAYS an answer but you have to not be a mental wuss to find it.
That is your biggest problem: you start from a premise of failure and so when it doesn’t work, you say “See? I told you so!” And you are RIGHT … for you.
This is too sad for words.
The conversation that you are having is one that has been going on in this industry for decades now. None of your arguments are new ones. Those of us who have been involved with the COW and the WWUG before that, have heard these arguments ad nauseum. But we have continued our fights and we win some and we lose some. YOU lose them all, it appears — and it surprises next to none of us based on your attitude.
I have stayed out of this and hoped that you’d learn something but people have broken out the play-by-play and have even gone so far as to give you the lay of the land from all of the things they have learned. You do NOT listen and you cannot learn because you cannot receive anything that does not agree with your own negativity and predisposition for failure.
Great. You win the argument. You are right, you will lose and your inability to adapt and adjust is what happens to species who cannot make the leap when the circumstances change.
You are right, you are going to fail.
You have ignored the advice of many here who are successful in spite of all the circumstances you decry and moan and groan about. They have something to teach you but you are an unwilling student it appears.
So please go away and make room for those who can listen and learn. You are beyond help.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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The mechanism will always tell you why it happened. The dialog box that pops up tells you the word that the mechanism sees that is causing the post to be put under review.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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We had a “Jiri” that used to come to the site and create crap storms on the Grass Valley forums and others and he just wouldn’t lighten up. He beat the same old tired drum over and over to the point that one day I threw him in the filter that allows us to moderate things before they go up. That’s why it was happening.
People are entitled to have their say. They are even entitled to say it more than once. But when an account clearly is being used for one purpose and it is done over and over and over, that gets old and just becomes noise at a certain point. So, for the sake of the signal-to-noise ratio, accounts like that are “slowed down” so that the site maintains a high level of signal.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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Yes, that is likely the way it was done.
I know many productions that try to avoid the extra steps required to get great audio and the productions suffer for it.
The formula is this: you can have great video and mediocre audio and you end up with a mediocre production. But I have seen mediocre video with an exciting and A-rated audio track suddenly take on a life all its own. Another way of saying it is this: you have likely watched movies where the audio scares you even though the movie is not all that good. Audio cues are more core to the human experience than visual cues.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
Publisher, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss