Robin S. kurz
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But then, by the looks of things, PCs and PPro actually need that additional astronomical IO to keep up, yes.
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[Oliver Peters] “you can populate them with RAIDed SSDs and really hot-rod the system in ways that are no longer possible on the Mac side.”
So you’re saying that you can get (and of course need) MORE than the near 2TB/ps read/write that I’m getting on my “Mac side” internally (single SSD) as well as the near 3TB/ps with an external SSD RAID?
Wow. Okay.
– RK
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Very weird… I only became aware of your post after Oliver answered to it, because somehow I’m not getting every third or so email i.e. response. Rather buggy forum apparently…
[James Sullivan] “I have also noticed that having FCPX
manage media on a weaker computer forces content to be copied into the project, bloating the size of it, where as on a more powerful newer mac the very same media would have been left external. This just bugs me. “Double-huh? For Final Cut Pro X it is completely irrelevant if the media in IN or OUT of the library. The only thing that counts towards performance is the I/O performance of the disk it resides on. As with any and every NLE on the planet.
[James Sullivan] “I tried bringing in 4K from a Sony F5 on my ancient 17” laptop and it had to copy and manage the media whereas at work where we have trash cans they just let everything sit where it is. “
I’m sorry, but Final Cut Pro X most definitely does NOT decide by the machine it’s on whether media you are importing has to be copied or not. That’s ridiculous. Whether it needs to be copied depends exclusively on where it’s coming from and in some cases what wrapper the original is in, in which case the subsequent behavior is the exact same on every single Mac, period.
[James Sullivan] “And not being forced to control where things land creates some messed up looking timelines that again when I inherit a project, makes me grumpy. “
Wait… so you’re blaming Final Cut for someone else’s shoddy work??
[James Sullivan] “The ability to cut from a compound clip and have it use the original media. “
What media exactly do you think it’s using?? I don’t get it. And then there’s always the ability to split a CC up again in the timeline. So I have no idea what you mean.
[James Sullivan] “The ability to bake a multi clip so that when it goes external it plays well.”
“When it goes external“? What is that supposed to mean?
[James Sullivan] “The ability to make very very very small proxies so that drive space can be saved.”
E.g. whittling over a TB of footage down to roughly 150GB is by far enough for me. Especially considering the ridiculously low prices for disk space nowadays…
[James Sullivan] “Exporting longform shows is faster to compress and export with the super powerful computers we have.”
Huh? How is that not a given??
[James Sullivan] “I am glad that I did not buy any thunderbolt anything until they decided to go to USB C.”
I have various TBo peripherals and now USB-C. Nothing has changed the least. Everything is still in use in the exact same way it was before. In fact I have been able to go from SIX to TWO connection to/from my computer for much less cost as with the “old” TBo. So, again, I have no idea what relevance (in a negative sense) USB-C has in that context.
[James Sullivan] “I need FCPX to be my NLE while I choose to run out to AE, Protools, Photoshop, Mocha, Cinema4D, Resolve, for all their goodness. “
Do it all the time. Is it the best possible C4D machine? Of course not. But if it were a substantial part of my work, I most definitely would get a tricked out PC for it.
– RK
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[Jason Watson] “There are lots of the same sorts of things available for Premiere; it’s easy to find LUT’s, color correction presets, templates, titles, effects, etc., all of which work directly in Premiere.”
I’d say you missed the entire core of what I was describing. I’m not just talking simple templates and presets. This is a WHOLE other ball o’ wax, sorry.
[Jason Watson] “Lumetri Color tool is a stand-out feature in regards to something built-in to the NLE”
There are a plethora of 3rd party CC tools for X that can certainly hold their own. Not just one. And that for just a tiny fraction of the cost. In other words for less than even a few months of the Adobe CC ransom… erm, subscription. So yeah, apples and oranges.
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “things like changing the […] layer structure”
No. Even that you can do. Only it won’t translate well if you e.g. DELETE a layer. But it WILL still work in X. I even have an entire chapter on that in my training.
So it’s more limited than with others, yes, but not nearly as limited as some would have you believe.
– RK
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[Brett Sherman] “If you want to keep working in FCP X while rendering in AE, just add a “2” or something to the render file. Then when it’s done, quit FCP X, rename it to the original filename. Reopen FCP X. Done and done.”
Actually, you can even re-render whilst working in FCP. The file will simply go offline until it is finished. After that it’ll reconnect itself as soon as the new “eligible” file is there.
Obviously altogether more difficult if your media is managed in the library.
[Brett Sherman] “it would be nice if there was a “Replace Media File” function, so you could force a file replacement.”
Agreed. Ultimately, it should work as it did in 7. Yell at you, but let you decide whether to do it anyway or not and put that file in the replacement list in italics.
The reasoning behind the stringency is fairly simple. The average user (those without our super-superior “pro” expertise) has no clue what even the smallest difference can or will do when replacing, therefore potentially messing up an entire project irrevocably. And gee, guess who’s fault it is then? Not THEIR’S. Never ever. Look at how many posts there are even here, where you just facepalm thinking “If only you went to the trouble of at least learning even the most basic basics and not completely overestimate your superior “pro” status in this world, we wouldn’t be having to listen to this ‘problem’ xyz.” ????
– RK
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No. My karma clearly ran over his dogma. ????
– RK
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[Herb Sevush] “when their values are so skewed from mine their is little I can glean from their opinions.”
Thank you for admitting it so freely on your own. Brilliant. I think we all know what that’s called. Good luck with that going forward! ????????
– RK
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[James Sullivan] “the ability to render over a graphic I had created in AE and have it update in the timeline when I opened FCP Legacy back up again.”
And it still does. Unless of course you changed the name, the location, length or the likes, which would cause the exact same problems in 7 just as well. If those criteria are met, there’s absolutely no reason why it shouldn’t work. But yes, X is far more stringent when those criteria AREN’T met. But that can just as well be considered a feature, it’s all a matter of perspective.
But a certain something tells me that that, too, will “soften up” soon. And actually be expanded. We’ll see. ????
[James Sullivan] “having some things live in a project while others do not.”
If that’s the case, then you told it to do that. Pretty simple. It’s not some random procedure. And you can consolidate everything into a single location, if needed, with the simple click of one little button.
[James Sullivan] “passing around Libraries on a SAN is a freaking nightmare”
Oddly we do that near every day and have quite the contrary take on the matter. It’s certainly not perfect (and also extremely hard to do, hence the reason why no one actually does it great in both practice AND price), but as of 10.3 it’s even become that much easier. It’s no ISIS, but still fast and easy. You just have to follow some very simple and basic rules, many of which you have to follow just as much with pretty much every other NLE. So you’d have to be much more specific for one to understand what it is you mean.
[James Sullivan] “have frustrated a lot of creative people”
And have helped, amazed and empowered a lot of others. I’d even venture to say a lot more than the other way around. And that’s actually by not just looking within my own little box.
[James Sullivan] “it has way more things that need to be tweaked that would make the day to day grind better.”
For example? Again, being specific is much more helpful for others to follow what it is you’re getting at.
[James Sullivan] “with ten thousand things daisychained together”
As opposed to what? Everything hooked up to 10 different ports? Or what is the situation with your 17″ exactly? I for one just know that I am absolutely thrilled that I now have all of TWO cables coming from my ’16 MBP as opposed to SIX with the ’12 one. Can’t see how that could be considered a BAD situation, sorry. As far as I’m concerned the USB-C move was a brilliant one that will only get that much better going forward once the various single-port USB-C PC laptops (oh gee, surprise surprise) that have been announced hit the market. Shall we wager how much complaining there will be about them?
[James Sullivan] “My next computer is going to be a Windows machine at this point which forces me off of FCP and MacOS too things I am still in love with. “
Such is life. Though I’d really be curious what it is you think you need 128GB of RAM, 48 cores and FIVE Nvidia cards for… especially right after complaining that the MBP is “pricey”. What exactly do you figure that configuration would cost you even as a PC?
[James Sullivan] “and fully recognize I represent a small minority of fussy post people”
You said it, not me. ???? And that may actually explain a lot to you about the current state of affairs as well, if you think about it for a moment.
[James Sullivan] “it is great that more people are becoming literate in producing videos “
My (previous) point exactly. ????
– RK
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[Herb Sevush] “Anything he has to say beyond that is of no interest to me whatsoever.”
Of course not. Spoken as a true, 110% solipsist. No surprises there. ????
[Herb Sevush] “”Deciding the spine is the process of editing””
Oh the irony!! ???? Seeing that the FCP’s primary storyline has often been described as the “spine” of one’s edit. Which makes the “nothin’ attached to nothin'” look even funnier.
– RK