“Adobexit”, switching from PPro to FCPX

[Scott Witthaus]

Thanks for sharing. I did get a chuckle at the line that said the Premiere interface “It looked clean, elegant and it seemed to work really well”….that’s one of my biggest complaints even today with the interface: cluttered jumble of edit-hieroglyphics.

My opinion only of course! 😉

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Steve Connor]

[Scott Witthaus] “that’s one of my biggest complaints even today with the interface: cluttered jumble of edit-hieroglyphics.”

To be fair, with a little customisation it is possible to make PPro’s interface look a little cleaner.

[Oliver Peters]

[Scott Witthaus] “that’s one of my biggest complaints even today with the interface: cluttered jumble of edit-hieroglyphics.”

Funny that FCPX 10.3 looks a whole lot more like Premiere Pro that it used to ☺

Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Andy Patterson]

I think more videographers will start switching to FCPX because of the cost of renting with the CC paradigm. It is odd because Photoshop and Lightroom own the market for photography yet Adobe sells them together for $9.99 per month. Adobe really doesn’t need to. People will pay for those programs. Adobe does not own the market for video production yet they don’t bundle Premiere and AE for $9.99 per month. FCPX and Premiere both work well but why rent it when you can own it? I myself think the CC should be $14.95 a month for everything. Adobe would still make a lot of money if not more money. If they lowered the price I think they would increase the amount of subscriptions.

[Dominic Deacon]

I remember once someone from Adobe saying that if they had $10 for everytime their programs were stolen they’d be the richest company in the world. I remember thinking then ‘well, why not sell it for $10?’ Nobody would steal it then. It would just come packaged with every single PC sold anywhere. Obviously there’s a major flaw in my thinking somewhere…

I think the difference between making people pay a large amount for AE and premiere and Photoshop is that there’s an awful lot of people using photoshop as a hobby or making very minimal amounts of money with it. I think someone else like Affinity would own the space pretty quickly if Adobe started demanding $50 a month for it. On the other hand pros using AE are almost always charging good money for their services. There’s a lot of competition for those jobs but not like there is for photography.

Personally I’d love the full package but at the moment I’m getting by with the photography programs. But if Project Felix turns out to be as useful as I’m hoping it is that could certainly change fast.

[Andy Patterson]

[Dominic Deacon] “I think the difference between making people pay a large amount for AE and premiere and Photoshop is that there’s an awful lot of people using photoshop as a hobby or making very minimal amounts of money with it. I think someone else like Affinity would own the space pretty quickly if Adobe started demanding $50 a month for it. On the other hand pros using AE are almost always charging good money for their services. There’s a lot of competition for those jobs but not like there is for photography.”

That maybe true but you have to look at the competition (FCPX).

[Scott Witthaus]

[Oliver Peters] “Funny that FCPX 10.3 looks a whole lot more like Premiere Pro that it used to ☺”

I had a series of short videos for web delivery to edit last week. For fun, I did some on Premiere and some on FCPX. INMHO, FCPX is a way way more elegant interface and does not distract from the creative process. Plus Premiere (CC2017)is buggy as shit. My favorite new bug is when I use the tilde key to make the source side monitor full screen, it will not go back to it’s normal spot. Rather the video stays centered behind the record monitor. Loads of time wasting fun that was not there in earlier versions.

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Steve Connor]

[Scott Witthaus] “My favorite new bug is when I use the tilde key to make the source side monitor full screen, it will not go back to it’s normal spot. Rather the video stays centered behind the record monitor. Loads of time wasting fun that was not there in earlier versions.”

Haven’t used it since the recent updates (Because of the FCPX Update ☺) but full screen on the tilde key is something I used a lot so might give it a miss for a bit longer!

[Craig Seeman]

[Dominic Deacon] “It would just come packaged with every single PC sold anywhere.”

I think it was almost like that with the original Adobe Premiere. It came free with any video card and all sorts of other things that might be even remotely video related. It was amazing how many things that program would crash on regardless of hardware. I switched to EditDV and never looked back.

[Dominic Deacon] “I think the difference between making people pay a large amount for AE and premiere and Photoshop is that there’s an awful lot of people using photoshop as a hobby or making very minimal amounts of money with it.”

I think that might be the case with editing as well.

One possible reason for the price difference is that Photoshop is very mature and Adobe had to do lots of work to come up with at least one whiz bang feature to get people to pay for the upgrade. For many, they simply didn’t bother to upgrade because they had no need for the new cheese whiz. So with the low budget subscription the pressure is of but the income is steady. It may be low per person but I’m sure it’s steep in number of subscribers.

On the other hand Premiere Pro needed lots of development to mature as fast as possible to fill the FCP legacy hole and wanted (wants) to have a steady stream of income to cover that with no possibility of people ducking out of upgrades. Even with that I know people who are hanging on the PPro CS6 as badly as some hung on to FCP7.

Affinity does continue to make moves as both Photo and Designer are now cross platform and next up will be their competitor to Adobe InDesign. Affinity’s prices are so low that even Adobe’s $10/mo can start to look expensive.

[Andy Patterson]

[Craig Seeman] “Affinity does continue to make moves as both Photo and Designer are now cross platform and next up will be their competitor to Adobe InDesign. Affinity’s prices are so low that even Adobe’s $10/mo can start to look expensive.”

I will have to keep an eye out for these other programs. Having said that InDesing is awesome.