Robin S. kurz
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[Craig Alan] “So you stated that the high end pros that did not adopt FCP X were”
Wrong again. It was never about adopting. You’re continuously confusing and interleaving the various points and arguments with each other at random, which is actually rather tiring, sorry.
[Craig Alan] “Robin, you haven’t given in this entire thread a single statistical fact.”
No idea why I should, seeing that I never made a single claim that would require it. Unlike you. And even though it’s none of your business, that publishing house is in fact Alex Springer SE.
[Craig Alan] “Can you name another?”
Which part of “I don’t care” did you not understand? 😀 You’re the one pointing to others for justification, not me. Remember? 😀 I’m not interested in the tired “My NLE is bigger than your NLE” line of discussion. If that were somehow actually relevant, why aren’t you using LightWorks? [an entirely rhetorical question btw]
[Robin S. Kurz] Whilst FCP X has gained even exponentially more ground, therefore canceling out any real gains for PPro. In fact resulting in an overall relative loss.
(never mind the sentence immediately following that)
[Craig Alan] Where are your facts? “
Wow. If someone doesn’t even get the most pithy sarcasm, which was even subtitled as such :-))))) , then I’m clearly in the wrong discussion. Aside from not really being interested in continuing to have words put in my mouth and having circular discussions, yes. Enjoy the last word. I’m out.
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Simply select “Geometry” as the emitter source.
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Why not simply use an “actual” floor and “actual” reflection?
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[Adam Schoales] “My hopes were the proxy could live on the portable drive, outside the library, so I’m just copying new library files over (and have the added benefit of being able to easily backup library files to Dropbox). With having Proxy files living INSIDE the library it was way too big to easily backup.”
You’re only making things unnecessarily complicated for yourself IMHO. Use the library filled with proxies locally and simply attach and detach the original media as needed. No copying or moving around needed. And if you’re worried about backups, that’s what the built-in backup function is for. That doesn’t backup MEDIA, just the library (database) files. So it’s irrelevant whether you have any media in it or not. I have mine set to my Copy folder (https://copy.com?r=D4Fz3M if you want additional 20GB for starters that work exactly as DropBox does).
And if you’re not using the built-in backups, then you’re also depriving yourself of some great functionality as far as restoring is concerned.
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You could simply install both versions under the same OS and disk. Only you’d have to deal with having to redefine which library/event you want to open or cancel updating old ones every time you use one after the other.
On the other hand I assisted in upgrading a collection of hundreds of 10.0.9 projects and events at a studio a few weeks ago. No translation errors have been found to this day. But since we opted to update either single events or only small groups at a time using Philip’s Event Manager, adding them to select libraries as we went along, it took a painfully long time…
But then, even if there HAD been any detrimental errors or any show up, the original events were saved anyway. They can go back at any time. And since the files are hard-linked, they don’t even take up any additional space.
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Point out to someone that the appeal to authority is a logical fallacy… and what do you get? :-))))
[Craig Alan] “I did a search and apparently I’m the only one in the world who finds calling a timeline a project was a poor choice.”
Well there you go! 😀
[Craig Alan] “When its used for dramatic effect, IMO it’s rather pretentious.”
“for dramatic effect”… :-)))). Gotcha. Letting personal opinion and perception appear to be fact on the other hand is completely unostentatious. 😀
[Craig Alan] “So the entire collective of broadcast and film editors are ignorant?”
Not sure when, where or how I ever said “the entire collective”. Because I in fact didn’t, but oh well. I was in fact only referring to the ones still making the nonsensical claim. Fortunately that’s not “the entire collective”, no. Just the misinformed (ignorant if you like) exceptions that 9 out of 10 times aren’t even a part of the “collective” they are referencing, but are just parroting indiscriminately whatever it is their self-defined authorities tell them. Go figure.
[Craig Alan] “Name me the professional applications that starting 2 1/2 years ago, in a collaborative production environment, that a FCP X project could be efficiently round tripped to and from and exactly how this would be done.”
Name me the professional applications that I couldn’t interface with two years ago. Be it with or without 3rd party utilities.
But then… what do I even care about 2+ years ago??! 😀 Completely irrelevant. As if the fact that FCP and its ecosystem are constantly evolving were some sort of unique occurrence. I’m just happy to know that I’m working with an ever evolving and open standard such as XML instead of being stuck with some stagnant, inferior nonsense from the 80’s such as EDL or the likes.
[Craig Alan] “I hope that FCP X does get adopted by the high end pros.”
Erm… you appear to be missing a looooong list of exactly that. There have been a plethora of cases reported on e.g. fcp.co alone. I guess you need to reevaluate your sources. But then if I were lemming enough to actually make decisions based on how to best mimic what “the cool guys” are doing, I wouldn’t have ever gotten a Mac or even touched FCP to begin with. Fortunately I don’t work that way.
I for one am training one of the (if not THE) largest digital publishing houses in Europe next week. They, as with the vast majority of FCP 7 or earlier users at that level, simply have a massive backend that needs/needed to be sorted out first before they could make the jump, which takes a lot of time and testing. Literally years in certain cases. But they are extremely anxious to finally make the jump because FCP 7 has (understandably) become a useless PITA for them in their digital workflow. Never once were PPro or Avid ever considered either.
So, again, I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers or information that somehow no “high-end pros” (whatever that even means) are adopting X.
[Craig Alan] “When did Logic start using FCP X’s XML?”
Actually… anyone, like myself, using AAF and/or ProTools doesn’t in fact care. But it’s great to have yet another, more direct alternative if needed, yes.
[Craig Alan] “But it would be foolish to claim that its launch did not allow Adobe Premiere to gain a much bigger foothold in profession editing circles.”
Aside from not having made that claim either (I’m seeing a pattern here), it actually would be far more foolish to claim the opposite without anything substantial to support the “much bigger” claim, whatever that arbitrary, subjective measurement even means. Notice I’m not making either claim, so the burden of proof is in fact not on my side, sorry.
And as of CC it’s practically impossible to make any definitive claims as to usage of any one CC app. Unless you simply want to count every single subscriber as a Premiere user, seeing that they potentially are. Otherwise you’re reduced to a completely inconclusive guesstimate at best. And you obviously can’t make any claims in terms of purchases. Which at least would make for a measurable, indisputable value to go from. But… you’re left with mere hearsay, corporate PR or subjective impressions, nothing else.
[Craig Alan] “Do I have the latest marketshare in professional houses at my fingertips? No.”
My point exactly. So unless you can quote the source and methodology of your “numbers” they simply don’t mean anything and its nothing other than an opinion, assumption, conjecture or whatever… only without you prefacing it as such, since that’s apparently pretentious. Your own personal perception within your action scope, from which nothing statistically useful or even vaguely conclusive can be derived. Let alone on a global scale. Quoting others that use the same “methodology” doesn’t change that. There’s also something called “confirmation bias” that clearly plays into it.
[Craig Alan] “Premiere Pro has developed really nicely and gained some ground with indie filmmakers and small companies”
Whilst FCP X has gained even exponentially more ground, therefore canceling out any real gains for PPro. In fact resulting in an overall relative loss. But FCP’s gains being in broadcast, feature films and commercials.
(SCNR Had to give the same claim-game a shot :-D) -
[Andrew Clark] “Is QTX a “better/improved” version of QT7?”
Depends on how you look at it. QTX works off the AV Foundation framework as explained above (which is why it insists on transcoding) and QT7 off the “old” Quicktime framework. All depends on what you need. If you don’t need any of the extra features the 7 player offers and/or are not working with any old codecs, then QTX is likely to be your best choice. Eventually that’s all there’ll be.
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[Oliver Peters] “However, I would also like to update the OS and FCP X versions on this machine to current. What would be the best way to do this? Dual boot…?”
How else could that be possible?
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If you want to avoid the conversion thing, which will more than likely be to H.264, then you’ll have to open it in e.g. the Quicktime 7 player. The discrepancies in color will most likely be due to the better color management pipeline that QTX (or FCP X for that matter) offers and therefore somewhat varying gamma values.
Try opening it with 7 and exporting it as ProRes. Not much you can do wrong with that. But then, if you’re fine with the other conversion, go with that and save time. 😉
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[Craig Alan] “Any one who needs to discuss/explain/ask about an operation in FC gets caught in the problem of “project” meaning timeline.”
Haven’t seen or come across it once in all of three years myself.
[Craig Alan] “It was a stupid decision. “
You’re entitled to your opinion. For me it’s nothing more than a matter of semantics and rather silly solipsism.
[Craig Alan] “Larry Jordan is perhaps the most successful FC/NLE teacher in the world.”
I highly doubt that. Whereby popularity isn’t to be equated with quality or success either. He’s been out of the loop (no pun intended) at Apple for quite a while now. Not without reason. But then that would be yet another appeal to “authority” anyway, a logical fallacy. 😉
[Craig Alan] “Apple was using terms that they thought a consumer level end user would understand better than the professional terms being used; or put more globally, that was more ‘user friendly’.”
Nonsensical conjecture imho. Not sure who you can state something like that so as-a-matter-of-factly. Unless of course you can substantiate it. I’d say there’s a “I think” or “possibly” missing in there. Glaringly so.
[Craig Alan] “Please, Robin. From day one of FCP X release, the film and television industry, who had been using FCP 7 in larger and larger numbers, complained that you could not round trip a FCP X “project” to the sound editors, the colorists, the special effect artists.”
Yes, and even to this day. Go figure. Even though it hasn’t been true for over two and a half years. So how does their ignorance qualify as an some sort of argument? And I’d say that utilities such as 7toX et al are a superb example for why outsourcing such things was a brilliant idea. And nearly all of them are available for less than just a MONTHS worth of CC, if you even need them, which the vast majority in fact don’t. Not sure how that qualifies as a disadvantage by any stretch of the imagination. And those that do need them I hardly think are somehow burdened by such paltry additional investments. A complete red-herring imho.
[Craig Alan] ” I think Adobe now has a very strong foothold in the professional NLE world and this will not go away any time soon.”
There’s no way of telling how successful (be it more or less) PPro is due to the CC model and I know that Adobe doesn’t have numbers either, so any such claim is, once again, mere speculation, assumption and/or hearsay. But FCP still has the greatest share of the market across all versions as of last year. So either way, they have a lot of catching up to do first. And somehow suggesting any and/or all success they may or may not have had is somehow related to the differences in either NLE’s export/exchange formats strikes me as a pretty amazing stretch.
[Craig Alan] “… Adobe might well not have gotten a foothold and AVID might have become a dinosaur. “
Coulda shoulda woulda. Once again: unsubstantiated conjecture and speculation. I have yet to see any substantial proof that the marketshare matters have changed in any big way. Maybe you have it?
[Craig Alan] “I often assume that there is a way of doing something that I haven’t learned yet”
There you go. X is doing exactly that. Take it from me and other 20+ year editing veterans, it’s a revolution AND (logical) evolution. I fear you’re missing the reference to how it’s been in those decades to recognize how and to what degree.