[Rich Kaelin]

I have not used Premiere in about a year (it was time to bite the bullet and learn FCP) However I can tell you this, unless something has changed, and I doubt it has.

The short answer is you are not pasting the Attributes of the effects, the parameter settings, you are pasting the effect with the parameter settings you have adjusted.

Once you copy and paste an attribute to a new clip it is now an independent effect on that clip…there is no GLOBAL change. I do not believe that there is a way to use the ctrl/cmd button and click through clips and keep selecting effect. I could be wrong. You can however select several effects on a single clip in this fashion. I believe You must delete old effect or filter then copy and paste new effect filter again. If you are only using same filter set on all clips I THINK there is a way to select group of clips and remove all filters, I could be wrong. If not, or if you are only changing some effects of many, you will have to delete filters clip by clip.

If you are applying this one filter to EVERY clip on an entire sequence, you can nest the sequence in a new sequence, and apply the filter there, then it will be one filter applied to everything, and any changes will affect entire time-line. NOTE that this does not work with filters that change over time on a per clip basis, since now hte whole sequence is only one clip.

One really scary thing you can try that I have done successfully…in an OLDER version of Premiere the project file was just a text file. Make a COPY of that, open it, and use find/replace to change. For example FIND brightness=50 REPLACE brightness=80 and REPLACE ALL or tab through each. You can really mess up your project like this, so try ONLY on a COPY. Be careful how you save it. May not work anymore, this was at least 10 years ago on a really old version, and I am home, and I don’t have a machine to test on now.

In any event, Good Luck.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

Thanks for your answer, and it makes some sense, and I wondered about it being the issue. But the problem is, I used DV codec in Motion and same image with same effects looks Awesome. I also rendered clip in AE and it looks great. The only program not looking good with image at 100% is FCP. I will try a prores test tomorrow, and see if it indeed solves the problem. Project is done, so no issue, just want to check for future. Thanks,again.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

Like it says above…apple prores is great but eats space. If this helps your consideration, we distribute media to HUNDREDS of outlets ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WORLD on CF cards recorded in our nanoFlash units, and no one seems to have a problem. While there is a codec for prores playback available to Windows users, it is, as far as I know, Player only. We have had great success with nanoFlash compatibility.

Another note, I have been told you can have the best of both worlds. While re-encoding your raw long GOP footage will not improve the quality and just consumes drive space, in Final Cut you can create a Sequence that is prores, and use your XDCAM EX footage from nanoFlash. It will edit fine, and when you render final sequence, all will be prores, leaving fewer artifacts. Honestly, I never see any problems in my native timelines either, but I hear a lot of concern about it.

Bottom line (in my humble opinion) HD video is always compressed for distribution…period. Blu-ray is, cable and satellite are, and so is every cloud based distribution (i.e. web viewing) You don’t want to step on quality too much, but if you can’t see a difference in the edit room, don’t lose too much sleep over it. 25 years ago one of my early mentors told me, “This is a great business, there are no rules…if it looks right, it is right.” Of course, he was referring to the new styles of shooting and editing that now seem common today, but were unorthodox back then.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

Thanks to all for this great feedback. Yes, my project did start to crash a lot toward the end of this project, but as I said earlier, hundreds of hours of footage, over 12,000 separate clips and in the neighborhood of 3,000 plus cuts on the sequence, took me a few days to do :). I was not mixing any formats, but I did find that rendering in prores eliminated some actual errors. I had a couple of transitions that worked in prores, but crashed otherwise. When sticking to HDV I did not see any quality difference , I actually exported a clip to prores and layered it on the original, so the effect would be a cut back to original in the middle of a clip, and scrutinized it diligently, could not see a difference from one frame to the next. But it seems obvious that Apple plays better with prores, and converting all footage to prores for multiformat editing is the best way to go when possible.
And as for crashing, I have another thread going on that, as I thought it was unrelated. One interesting response came back with system maintenance…I was unaware this was need on the Mac (I am relatively new to Mac, so all the crashing made me fell nostalgic about Windows, Mac NEVER crashed until this project) Do any of you run maintenance programs to clean up the lists? Just curios…and if so , what? As this was a huge project with no mixed footage, seems like a plausible theory as to why I was having the problem.
Final note, for the person with color issues, would editing the HDV footage in a 1920×1080 Prores timeline help that situation?, as opposed to the 1440 timeline he said he was using…it seems to work fine when I tested, and renders look great, should go out to color fine, or am I missing something? Like I said still new to FCP world, and not much experience with color yet. If anyone nows a really quick, concise color tutorial, that would be great, too. Thanks all.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

Thank you Shane for your helpful advice. This is basically what I have been doing, and everything looks fine, just wanted to streamline export. Unlike others, you seem to understand what these forums are for. I was a little discouraged by post from Dave LaRonde, I don’t feel that kind of feedback here is warranted or useful to anyone.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

Your arrogant and condescending attitude is inappropriate for these forums. If you read my post, you would have seen that I am NOT re-rendering, that was the whole point. If I avoid transcoding I stay with original format and maintain integrity, the edit is 99% cuts. If I were doing a multi-layered sequence I would have used pro res, but the reality is I have hundreds of hours of footage and over 12,000 separate clips to transcode and the project has a deadline. I know an awful lot about this stuff, probably more than you. I know all the limitations and issues with HDV, and given the authority I would have advised against using it…but budget is a prime consideration for many clients. HDV is already compressed, so re-compressing it won’t improve quality. There are many threads on COW that confirm this.
These forums are for learning and sharing information and insights among professionals, not for deriding and belittling your colleagues. If behaving this way makes you feel like a better person, seek professional psychiatric therapy, it is an unhealthy mindset.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

I am not sure what you mean by maintenance… I run ClamXav once in a while and MacScan. After big projects I back up any info I want to save, remove all the files I don’t want, footage, etc, and defrag the drives, but that is about it. Is there something else I should be doing?

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

Really, it is a 32 bit app? I am very disappointed. Bought a smoking machine to run it on, and now I find it may have been a waste. Does the extra power allow me to run other apps simultaneously more effectively? ie, motion, compressor, etc, all at once?

And yes, as I said, I think there is an issue with a clip in the one suspect sequence, crashing seems to have all started there. Otherwise FCP is one of the most stable NLEs I have ever used.

But if anyone knows how to shake Apple’s tree (pun intended)…let me know. FCP is missing some very simple and basic features. For all of its extraordinarily advanced features, I am surprised it is missing some of the very basic features I have come to depend on.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

Thank you for your reply. Yes< I understand the advantages of pro res, but there are some disadvantages as well. First, I bring my footage in direct off cards, so it is in native hdv format. Converting it all to RroRes has 3 major drawbacks… 1st = Time, I would have to read it all in from tape… 2nd = Space, ProRes footage takes about 4x as much space as the native HDV format, and doind so will not improve picture quality… 3rd = Quality, while ProRes is a great codec, it would still require re-compressing the video into that codec, which, for lack of a better term, is generation loss, especially if I want to re-archive final master on an HDV reel. Visually, I see no difference between my wrapped .m2t files and the prores, they look identical, but logic tells me that the prores went through an encoder, therefore something changed. I understand that prores will allow more realtime effects and faster rendering, but that is not a big issue for me as I find the most effective transition is almost always a cut.
The question I really have is is there anyway to make sure all my timeline renders are happening in the native HDV codec, so I can avoid mixing codecs on the timeline, and streamline the print to tape process. Thanks.

Rich Kaelin
Kaelin Motion Production Services
New York

[Rich Kaelin]

I am creating and rendering in motion. Whether or not I work in FCP at the same time seems to have no effect on speed or stability. Plus now background is not rendering in TGA files either, but there is an alpha channel that works. I will just need to re-render the first few hundred images. Very odd and inconsistent. I think the amount of text overwhelmed the program…there are probably 20 thousand characters, if not more.