[Richard Herd]

[Jim Giberti] “for instance, for quickly editing dialogue and VO work, ducking music to voice in realtime, and even grouping audio for “track wide” EQ and compression”

This has been my experience too. I’m not understanding what the original poster meant by “serious audio work.”

I’ve always worked like the following, in this order (since 2003, in Avid, M100, Vegas, Premiere Pro, and FCP&X)

— Edit an assemble
— Rough cut
— Picture lock

— Audio (Music, Dialogue, ADR, FX, Foley) It’s here where Legacy was a bit of a pain and where STP could have been cool if it worked for longer pieces, so I exported audio channels with a 2-pop and a rough video for ProTools work.

— Visual Effects

— Mastering

Here’s my actual question: In what order are other folks working? Am I too old school? Is there a more efficient way?

[Richard Herd]

Do you sync them first, like mutticam? re:

[Jeremy Garchow] “For example, I am cutting spots in FCP7 right now that have 6 channels of audio.

1 mono mix
1 Boom
4 separate Lavs for four separate actors.”

[Richard Herd]

Thanks Jim!

This weekend I’ll be sitting down to work on a mix for a short movie.

I’ve divided each scene into Compound Clips. The next step is the score, fx, foley, and dialogue mix. Normally I do this in Pro Tools, but this project is for me to learn FCPX, so I’m really trying to stay in X.

I’m sure I’ll have questions.

Thanks

[Richard Herd]

[Andrew Rendell] “structure, structure and, er, yes that’s it, structure”

What would Felini say? 🙂

[Richard Herd]

Sorry to go off topic, but Jim have you made the tutorial for “bussing” audio around FCPX, yet?

Thanks!

[Richard Herd]

You’re welcome. And thank you…

but it all starts somewhere. Might as well get organized first!

[Richard Herd]

https://store.creativecow.net/p/63/getting_organized_in_final_cut_pro

[Richard Herd]

Yeah that’s a bummer, a limit. There’s two send to… options. One is the Soundtrack Pro Project, and the other option is the send to a multi-track project. In cases like you mention I send to STP as a multichanel project. Then you have to set up busses and effects and route your signal traditionally.

The other way you can do this, is to export and create new media and set up a new sequence. Then the send to stp is the new media.

However! Projects that reach the 20 minute mark seem unstable, crash and close.

[Richard Herd]

It is fast. You use multiple layers in After Effects (for example) and then place them in z-space and then move a camera right to left.

[Richard Herd]

Sales…that’s tough. Maybe as a bonus type of thing.

Recently I’ve had success to “paying per deliverable” with an opt-out after payment type of arrangement. It makes it easy also to explain to the client all the processes involved, starting with the script.