[Richard Herd]

[Phil Hoppes] “You happen to believe what people/corporations say. I happen to believe in what people/corporations do.”

I’m with you here. I observe what they do, not the PR and marketing. I listed what two corporations did.

[Phil Hoppes] “a uber MacMini as someone else has suggested.” That was me. I like the idea of being able to hook them together, assuming you can create some kind of render farm type thing.

[Phil Hoppes] ” you seriously believe that damage was not done to the overall perception on MacPro users by the ridiculous “New” they posted on Monday?” Correct. It’s not a big deal. The moment the next gadget hits the marketplace, all is forgiven — like an etch-a-sketch. Most folks are just pissy, imo, because they’re itching to buy some new toy. One guy around these-here-parts spent a lot of money and is in the same place he was last year–well…except now he doesn’t have the money and he has to spend more. That’s what I mean by “itching to buy some new toy.”

[Phil Hoppes] “Do you really think that their current market share is going to RISE with an overpriced, under spec’ed, under performing BS box they are currently peddling and that customers who need a faster machine now are not either going to look at an uber iMac or switch to Windows?” Not exactly. First they are segmenting the market. Well, wait a minute, that was present progressive tense. I should have used past perfect: Apple has segmented the market. Now, they will try to gain market share, and last I saw total units sold of X outpaces pretty much every other NLE. If someone is in a APR422 workflow, they really don’t get a choice to move to Windows. I can think of a few examples of people in this forum who are just bullheaded, refusing to run their edit bays on iMacs and X, for reasoning that is essentially whining or peacocking. No offense intended to those people. It’s just that, like you said, “I happen to believe in what people/corporations do.” My observations might be suspect of course, but having twin 2 year-old daughters, I’m an expert at detecting whining.

One last detail. I think your reasoning is backwards. Putting the new box out there (and it’s cheap) at the same time Smoke put their software out there will not create a decline in market share. Make sense? It’s a stop gap measure.

Also Apple has a lot of money so they can play the “pro” game for 10 years, while Avid is worried about next quarter. Adobe’s NLE imo is weird. I use it a lot actually on a Windows box (a crummy one btw) and when I’m using it I always wish I was in X.

[Richard Herd]

Last week’s mac pro update was Monday.
Smoke was on Tuesday.

I don’t believe that was a coincidence.

[Richard Herd]

[Andrew Richards] “populated by people who have no interest in servicing their own laptop”

My hand is raised. I am he who couldn’t care more…er, less…whatever. I care very little about fixing my own laptop, car, refrigerator, guitar, amp, shoes, buttons on shirts. I care very much when someone needs me to fix their film and video.

[Richard Herd]

[Craig Seeman] “expanding their computer market share”

Yep. Of course, it’s a business. There’s a weird pseudo-reasoning popping up regularly that goes as follows: Because apple makes more money selling iToys, they are abandoning the pro market.

The opposite is actually true. They are segmenting the pro market and increasing their share of it.

[Richard Herd]

What do you mean practical? Cash expense v. training and re-learning expense? Is it more cash to buy that stuff?

Thanks!

[Richard Herd]

“Pro” has to do with the exchange value of one’s labor.

[Richard Herd]

Why not unix or linux, for you?

[Richard Herd]

[Jim Giberti] “They created a universe in which countless businesses operate.”

And that’s the nuts and bolts of it, right? They created a universe. Like any of the other gods, they just mess with us. Only the Fundamentalists are seeking a personal relationship. The rest of us just want a big day once per year when we can shop.

[Richard Herd]

I’ve never been any good at connecting the dots. But here’s my connection nonetheless:

These are the dots:
Monday: “new but not really” Mac Pro.
Tuesday: Smoke download available.

What does it all mean? It means I’m not buying anything.

[Richard Herd]

[Bill Davis] “Live and learn.”

Die and forget it all.