[Pierre]

Grasshopper-

Thank you. Thats a great idea. It’ll work perfectly for this application.

Michael

[Pierre]

(RYAN): “To use the car example again, the general principle behind cars has not changed since their creation. Four wheels, steering wheel. They get you from a to b. By your logic Ferrari’s should cost less so that everyone can afford one. But what you don’t realize is the differences far out weigh the similarities. People don’t buy Ferrari’s because they look like Ferrari’s, they buy them because they drive like Ferrari’s.

Same with the camera’s, people don’t buy them because of what they are, they buy them because of what they can do.” (End Quote)

First of all I

[Pierre]

Tony-

The camera of choice isn’t ALWAYS indicative of the Fritos and soup special… I feel like that’s a generalization, but I know what you mean & I have been on “those” types of shoots before. I’ve also been on 100 million dollar movies from pre-production through post so I know that I’ve got a fairly well rounded idea of what’s out there.

Tony, I agree with you- both “sides” can learn from each other. I think that’s when great things happen.

I’m sure the HVX-200 will only be considered “professional” after someone like Steven Soderberg uses a few of em to shoot a feature… and then wins some awards (which will probaly happen). Then everyone and there mother in the idie world will be shooting on it… and they’ll say things like- it’s so inexpensive, lightweight and portable…. and look at the picture!

Thanks for your reply Tony!

Michael

[Pierre]

Ryan,

(You wrote) “There is a reason that those cameras cost that much more. Anyone who gets proper financing will continue to use the high-end stuff for the simple reason that it is high-end stuff.”

Wow! The camera companies certainly will love you. It sounds like you’ll pay simply because it’s “high end”. Can you always SEE high end? If so, please explain or tell me where I can see it for myself. What is “High End”? Do you mean expensive?
This logic reminds me of the story of a very famous photographer who when asked why there was a semi-truck full of incredibly expensive equipment parked in front of the studio (but none of it was being used)

[Pierre]

(Dontello) “in general your “test ” really don’t matter … if you can afford 65K plus $$ for lens ( total= 100K +) you can see the difference day-night .. if you can only afford a 6K camera then you’ll ask if the audience is going to see the 55K difference (it’s much more $$ then that) ”

The test matters if you have a project you really care about and there is only so much money to go around. I had similar thoughts between the Varicam and DVX-100… ultimately I went with the Varicam on the project because there really was a HUGE difference between those two cams. The Varicam footage was beautiful, it was obviously the right decision.

Now that the HVX-200 is on it’s way (for some of my projects) the choice will be easier (because the quality gap has just been closed that much more). Although, we’ll all just have to wait and SEE.

Thanks for the reply-

[Pierre]

Oh- Here’s another error that I get: Batch Capture: Timecode Erro: Unable to locate te specified timecodel You may have specified a timecode with insufficient room for a pre/post role operation.

Hmmm. Not enough room between one batch and the other?

thanks in advance

[Pierre]

(Vincent Rice)
” Its a silly question, a ‘category error’. The two cameras are not in competition.”

That’s an interesting point of view Vincent. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Michael

[Pierre]

Nick-

Maybe the commercial scenario wasn’t quite right… it’s all theoretical anyway. There is no commercial… I’m just posing a question for the sake of getting some opinions on what the HVX is going to look like. It’s clear that you’re a Varicam fan… that’s great, so am I. I’ve used it to shoot several projects, however I’m looking for a camera to buy that will give me a great image, could be cinematic (if utilized properly) and that won’t break the bank… and I feel like the HVX is the FIRST camera that really fits that bill. I’m not looking for a rental camera to make a buck on… I’m looking for a camera to OWN and to shoot my projects on. The last couple years have given us some great dv cameras (with 24P and now HDV) which was/is great! But…this seems different to me. This seems like a much bigger step. This is DVCPRO HD 1080P @ 24 FPS recording onto a couple cards that will fit into your wallet. That’s a big change;
Thanks for the reply-

Michael

[Pierre]

Nick,

I didn’t overlook the lens issue. It’s right there. I asked what else “other than the lens?” Someone pointed out that the chips are bigger…

Overall I agree though,there will be a difference.. It’s hard to say how big the difference will be with out SEEING it. I’m hoping it won’t be so much. I have high hopes for the HVX… certainly higher than HDV. HDV seems like one big giant compression on top of a compression.

I’ll bet that in unison with the mini-35mm convertor (PS Tecknik), a nice set of super speed primes and proper care taken when shooting/lighting the difference between the two cameras will not be astounding. Just the other day someone on the cow (a Varicam owner) said that he was planning on using the HVX-200 as a 2nd camera for his shoots.
I don’t know…I’m really excited for this camera and P2 technology in general.
Thanks for your reply.

[Pierre]

Todd,

Thank you for your detailed answer. We’re in the process of learning this all at once…. baptism by fire I guess.
We’re going to use compressor and I’ll post back with results.

thank you,

Michael