Peter Groom
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I cant speak for other recorders but (even though lots pf people seem not to have a particularly high opinion) I have found it to be a reasonably enough recorder, certainally for the price.
I hate the onboard mics, but find feeding it with mics direct or from a mixer to be generally ok.
So Id vote for the purchase of a Zoom Hvn, but you need to get the camera recording internal mic sound correctly to make syncing up much easier than mute tracks (as i presume you wont be clapperboarding every take)
My opinion of DSLR cameras is often read on this forum, but until Im shown that things have changed significantly, i will leave the DSLR cameras for shooting nice pictures, and nOT ask it to do anything re audio.
I dont think that will ever happen because I want ALL of the following on a DSLR before Ill entertain it.
1) XLR inputs
2) switchable Mic / line inputs
3) Correct metering
4) Adequate monitoring
5) Switchable AGC on off.
6) Higher quality mic pre electronics
7) powering for a range of mic voltagesAs you can see, this will never happen.
PeterPeter
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Why are you normalizing?
Mix it on faders. Thats what theyre for.
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer
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Well I am a fan of the Cos 11, but with that framing, Id go for a short shotgun on a stand with its tip just out of frame. And I mean JUST.
I think that will likely give a better warmth, and youll have to bury a personal mic which always lessens their clarity.Id also consider putting some cushions / large absorbent materials on the floor around the person. Its out of shot and will mute the 1st reflections to the mic pointing down at the floor.
If the floor is not SOLID, put the feel to the mic stand on rubber to lessen structural vibrations, and try to use a shockmount on the mic rather than just clipping to the stand boom arm.
Listen to the acoustic of the space. If you can hear a reverb, your recording WILL have it, and you cant get rid. Look at what you can do to lessen it before pressing record. Drapes, soft furnishings, Angling the shout away from a parallel surface etc etc. Spend time before the recording to get it right.
And 1) Make a test recording.
2) Listen to it back and check for problems away from the shoot location in a quite space.
3) Wear headphones throughout. Dont take them off for anyone.
4) If there is a problem STOP and fix it. Dont press on then wonder how to fix it later.Good luck
Peter
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Yep. Listened in the studio
180 degreses out of phase.
Mono it and you get nothing.
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer
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I agree with Ty
Play to their strengths.
5d shoots nice pictures awful sound
552 records great sound. No pictures.Its a marriage made in heaven.
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer
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By means of an explanation of this territory for those on the cow who perhaps don’t know.
Were talking about how sound is heard by a listener sat between 2 speakers. If you play a voice track and pan it hard left and hard right (providing your speakers are equally set for power, then if you look straight ahead, you should be able to pin POINT at a place between the speakers, where it appears you have a third speaker. It is pinned centre and it rock solid.
This audio is called in phase (ie the coils of the speakers are pushing and pulling synchroniously)
If the audio or the speakers are ” out of phase” then the coils don’t work together and the centre Image of the audio is not pinnable like before.
This is something your ears will quickly learn to spot. The sound is diffuse, and not really pinnable as to exactly where it comes from.If 1 leg of audio is not phase coherent with the other (which can be caused by delays, cable lengths etc etc) then if you mono the 2 tracks you will find a lessening of the signal, bass frequencies are 1st to go) and worst case, if the audio is 180 degrees anti-phase to each other, the audio will disappear. Obviously this only affects audio in the middle area of a mix.
Hope this helps
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer
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I love a puzzle.
You should have kept the qu and A separate.As soon as i listened to the audio sample here at home, my ears said there was a phantom image. Couldnt pin it to the screen with my ears. drifting as my head turns. Phase yells out! but not 180.
I only have PPMulator here at home but ill listen in the studio at work. My guess is that the l – r relationship is not 100% mono compatible.
radios always, by definition have to have a delay, but only a millisecond or 2 (40ms in 1 frame, 25 frames in 1 sec here in the uk)
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer
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Hi
Well I sat down in the studio, downloaded your aif and popped it into pro tools.
Holy Hell!If this were a ming vase, it got dropped from the 4th floor onto the street. No amount of super glue will get that back together.
Sorry.
Theres finessing, adjustment, restoration and divine intervention. This needs the latter.
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer
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Feel free Richard
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer
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Hi again I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but why isn’t 10 lavs feasible . You’ll be providing 10 chairs no doubt? If you were holding a children’s party would you make them share a cake rather than give 1 each.
Simple rule
If they speak, mic em.
These things are readily hire able .
There are no short cuts on sound , just audible compromises.
PeterPost Production Dubbing Mixer