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MPE,
Maybe you should re-read my posts. I never framed the argument in terms of price and I never mentioned functions that are really there, but needed mapping. Those were other posts. I’m merely arguing for a consistent interface and a possible unbundling of hardware and software. Avid can charge what it wants, but the reality is that the software that runs Adrenaline is essentially the same software that runs Xpro with some items disabled. The Adrenaline DNA provides hardware codecs, some on-board codec scaling and I/O – essentially the same functions as AJA Io or maybe Kona2. So you’ll have to draw your own conclusions as to the worth of those items in the competitive marketplace.
I don’t know if we’re in the same industry or not 😉 I cut everything from commercials to feature films in resolutions ranging from SD to more than HD. I realize offline/online is alive and well in long-form entertainment and national commercials, but that is more true in NYC and LA than the rest of the country. For example, news, corporate videos, local/regional commercials are less likely to use this route than ever before. That’s because drives are so cheap.
This wasn’t an Avid vs. FCP argument, but FCP editors use far more than DV25 or 1:1. For example, a lot of folks also use DVCPro50, DVCProHD, uncompressed HD, HDV, etc. Right now I’m cutting a project on FCP that will mix everything – SD, HD (720 and 1080) 4×3 and 16×9. Yes, I could do this in Avid but it would be a lot more difficult. And yes, I am using an offline/online approach.
For the record, I’ve used nearly every Avid post system from Xpress to DS. Last year I cut a feature on an Xpress Meridien – a UI that’s far more crippled than Xpro. Heck, there are actually some things I prefer about it!
I’m not trying to diss Avid. I’m merely urging that they get their act together before they lose the rest of the market. That’s a point of view you probably don’t agree with, yet I find myself speaking with more and more facility owners (including in NY and LA), who simply find it hard to justify sticking with Avid. I hope they are wrong, since I like the company and the product, but Avid’s a pretty big battleship to turn around. I guess we’ll see what NAB holds.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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Since the sequence TC is simply an ascending count, you could just capture wild audio from any TC generator and set it to the same values as your sequence. Record that as an audio input and then place that track on any audio track of your TL. If you capture with a visible TC window, you will be able to identify the specific TC inpoint for editing purposes.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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Yes, I certainly know that, but you missed the point. Also missing are two rows of info at the top. The argument isn’t that you can get there through a workaround, but rather that you have to use a workaround in the first place.
What this argument really centers around in my opinion, is that Avid’s product model no longer serves the way most people in this business work. If I wanted to run the full Composer interface unbundled from the Adrenaline hardware on a laptop, I couldn’t. If I wanted to run it WITH Adrenaline, I couldn’t. If I wanted to work in a resolution-independent format, I couldn’t. These are issues that most of the competition at all price levels has addressed already. Avid is still stuck in the offline/online mentality and has structured its product line around that strategy. Part of the industry still works that way, but most doesn’t.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters
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False. Saving to the same drive is fine. Just don’t put the non-Avid files into the same OMF folder.
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OliverOliver Peters
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[MPE] “Picking on Avid doing it is rather silly, especially when the other company does the same thing”
It’s not the fact that they do it, but rather that it is done in an illogical fashion grown purely out of sloppy programming and sloppy market research. Restricting a tool is a valid product stratafication. Restricting individual buttons and UI information is dumb. One approach drives sales for upper-end products. The other irritates buyers and fuels discussions like this one. If you look at FCE versus FCP, there are differences, but at least same-named features act the same.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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[mpe] “Disabling a feature is no different with smoke and inferno.”
MPE,
That’s a silly answer. Smoke is an editor and inferno a compositor. Smoke/smokeDI/fire are basically the same toolset/UI and flint/flame/inferno are the same. The differences within each group are based on film-related features enabled by the “upper end’s” use of SGI platforms versus the “lower-end” products on Linux.
FCP, Premiere Pro, Quantel, Autodesk and even Avid Liquid are all examples of UI’s that are essentially the same from low-end use to top-end use.
The problem isn’t that Avid wants to exclude features from the low-end products. That’s reasonable when you look at things like Fluidmotion and tracking and Animatte but not when you’re talking about basic UI tools. The real source of the problem is that Xpress DV/Pro grew out of a somewhat different product development path than Media Composer and Avid has never bothered to clean up the discrepancies. Why do you think the Go To Transition keys/commands work differently on the two types of systems? That’s really just sloppy and now you have large groups of users who like it each of the two different ways. So if you fix it now, you’ll also frustrate other users.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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It might be helpful to actually read the info posted at Apple.com. That’s about the only info anyone at this point actually knows. The roadmap and implications for ProApps users are pretty clearly spelled out. Everything else is purely speculation.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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[bill] “Secondly, will Word, Excel, and adobe producs have to run through rosetta if they are written for both mac and pc. Please don’t quote me but i remeber something in one of Steve job’s keynotes that the fore mentioned application were already being rewritten or “tweaked” to run nativly on the intel macs. I think it was a mistake on apple’s part to release new hardware without supported software. is anyone even sure iLife runs nativly?”
Check the Apple website. Any software branded as “Universal” has been natively compiled for both. Other software has to run under Rosetta and will work. If it really relies heavily on processor-specific functions, it will not work under Rosetta. So for instance, the ProApps will have to be updated to “Universal” versions before they will work and those will be available in March. Some update pricing is listed on Apple’s site.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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[JeremyG] “My powerbook is four years old and in desperate need of an overhaul.”
Then agreed – you are a good candid for this upgrade.
” but there’s the expresscard/34 slot that will be nice. We can start attaching our laptops to small SATA RAIDS”
I don’t think there are any cards yet, or there? The better direction is Gig-E. That’s now included with the new MBP and a direction drive folks seem to be working on.
“1 GB of RAM, the 1 GB is one stick (not two) so you won’t have to throw it out and get a new one”
That’s good.
“I was told a rule long ago that buy the best, fastest, most loaded computer you can afford today so you can hold on to it longer and get more use out of it in the future and it has really held true for me.”
Absolutely. Plan on getting 3 years out of anything you purchase today. At the 3 year point, you’ll start to feel dated, but it won’t be obsolete at that point, yet, if you purchase wisely.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
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I should point out that although the MacBook Pro looks nice, there is no FW800 port and no PC cardbus slot (now a new standard). It comes with 1GB RAM, but most likely the slots are populated, so to increase RAM, you’ll have to throw out the existing RAM and buy the full amount you’ll need.
Although Pro Apps will go native in March, there is as yet, no way to tell whether running apps via Rosetta will be faster or slower. Most likely the same, as slowness in emulation will be offset by the faster processor speed. That will affect Word, Excel, After Effects, Combustion, Red, Photoshop, etc.
A good machine if you are buying today, but not worth replacing a 1 or 2-year-old PB, yet.
Sincerely,
OliverOliver Peters
Post-Production & Interactive Media
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com