Nikos Papadopoulos
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Hi Bob!
Sounds like a great deal! I have yet to find it online. I also assume those speeds are tested by you!! Fortunately the thunderbolt 3 is now working at full potential as well, on paper and hands-on, something I needed in order to quickly plug the laptop on and off!
When released, I’ll definitely consider the purchase to get rid of the noise problem as well!
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Neil hello!
Yes, all three machines are on 10.13.4, and the changes need to be done on all systems.
The sysctl.conf is more tricky in that it works better without those settings on a 1gbps configuration. So if you connect with 1Gbps then avoid changing the default sysctl.conf (which is empty btw). The nsmb.conf and terminal commands should all be performed though.
We have not tried 10.12.x since when we got the QNAP, our systems were already at 10.13.x. However other fellow coworkers had similar issues on 10.12 and 10.13 even with the sonnet adapters. The same issues showed up on the T3 did not show up on the T2 version.
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For anyone following this, the slowdown issues seem to be resolved in the latest macOS 10.13.4. I have been in contact with both QNAP and Apple and before today the issue was ongoing. We can now work on the system again with multiple users. For reference I will post the configuration that is working for me:
FCPX 10.4, macOS 10.13.4
MacBook Pro Retina 2017 15″ Maxed out
QNAP TVS-1282T3 firmware 4.3.4.0537 Build 20180331
QNAP’s 40Gbps 2m Thunderbolt 3 cable
8x8TB HGST NAS 7200rpm drives
1 Static volume (Qsirch on, spotlight indexing on, multimedia apps off, network trash off)
Mounting via SMB 3
iMac 5K Retina & Mac Pro 2008 (with dosdude’s patch to install 10.13.4 and an NVIDIA GTX 960) connected via 1Gbps ethernet for now. Waiting on NAB for new 10Gbps adapters.nsmb.conf
[default]
signing_required=no
streams=yes
veto files = /._*/.DS_Store/
sysctl.conf
net.inet.tcp.doautorcvbuf=0
net.inet.tcp.doautosndbuf=0
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=4194304
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=4194304
net.inet.tcp.maxseg_unacked=8
net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0
net.inet.tcp.win_scale_factor=7
Disabled DSStore files on network
defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true
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Bob hello!
I have yet to find a perfect solution with the QNAP team, though with some tuning and the latest update it has come quite close. However there was a recent addition of a 5K iMac which will be placed in another office and since it will be the main editing machine we were looking for the best 10Gbe adapter for it. I have some experience with the sonnet twin, which is a loud box, and it will reach speeds of 900R/W, but did have some issues with FCPX and High Sierra – mainly similar to the ones I’ve been experiencing with T3.
Have you had a chance to try the new Akitio? I haven’t been feeling very confident after that story you told me!
Lastly I have zero experience with the ATTO except its price which costs as much as the iMac. Is it stable? loud? Works with High sierra?
In a month there will also be a new availability from caldigit (https://caldigit.com/thunderbolt-3-10Gbe-ethernet-adapter/aqua-x/).
Anyone with experience with the above?
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Lutz I just came back from Switzerland! Could have gone by!
Here is the bigger issue. The slowdowns that are cause are also happening on a similar system with the Sonnet 10GbE. The SanLink over T3 has a terrible write speed. This doesn’t give me the confidence to buy a 10G adapter, and being in Greece, I have no option to return it if it doesn’t work. Other people are using T3 successfully, so for now, I’m looking into that direction.
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Also please know that we don’t have an easy way to return products for refunds here in Greece. Store attitudes are far from the US ideal that client comes first, in fact, its the exact opposite. So I can’t just buy one, try it and return it.
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Hey Bob,
There are a couple of points to be made. First it is to get this system working – if that means support tickets at QNAP so be it, I have the patience. I could have spend 1000€ less on a non-thunderbolt version and gotten three adapters but I have this perversion that I like to use what I paid for.
Second is to figure out what’s wrong with the T3 connection. Sanlink 3 won’t cover my needs due to the slow write speeds. Sonnet has issues with High Sierra. And people that are using sonnet are running into the same exact issues, so it seems those adapters won’t fix this – don’t forget FCPX 10.4 can also be at fault.
As I already have a 40G Thunderbolt 3 connection I’d like to use that since it suits my needs. I have not reformatted so, that’s that. Figuring out what’s wrong can be a learning experience so how about we solve this problem together! Please chime in if you have any ideas on where to look. Cheers!
I seem to be getting somewhere by tinkering in sysctl.conf with these settings.
net.inet.tcp.win_scale_factor=8
net.inet.tcp.autorcvbufmax=33554432
net.inet.tcp.autosndbufmax=33554432
net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0kern.ipc.somaxconn=2048
net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1
net.inet.tcp.win_scale_factor=4
net.inet.tcp.mssdflt=1448
net.inet.tcp.v6mssdflt=1412
net.inet.tcp.msl=15000
net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive=0
net.inet.tcp.slowstart_flightsize=20
net.inet.tcp.local_slowstart_flightsize=9
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
net.inet.icmp.icmplim=50
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=1042560
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=1042560and nsmb.conf with these settings:
[default]
signing_required=no
dir_cache_max_cnt=0
streams=yes
notify_off=yes
port445=no_netbios
unix extensions = no
veto files = /._*/.DS_Store/It seems to be working for a while, but something is using the QNAP drives in the background and no processes in the QNAP admin verify this – even with all connections disconnected from the NAS. Qsirch disabled and ofcourse no RAID resyncs happening.
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Update (but no solution yet):
I have added all 8 8TB drives (7200rpm) and created a static volume instead of a thick one. Though the read speed jumped (smb 3.0) from 1000mb/s to 1200mb/s, the write speed still remains at 250mb/s. Can someone point me in the right direction? QNAP support hasn’t responded either (due to New Years I presume).
Always with regards,
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Bob thank you!
My main question was, not being familiar with the Qnap interface yet, if there’s an app on the Qnap side that would handle this automatically ? I presume writing a script is the only way to go for now.
I did stumble onto this article, even though it is not refering to a qnap device, and it suggested that automatic indexing takes place. Have you had such an experience?
https://care.qumulo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115008514788-Mac-OS-X-Spotlight-Search-and-Qumulo
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Usually this happens if the system has NVIDIA instead of AMD. If you’re on a Mac Pro (pre 2013) and have installed a custom NVIDIA card, know that this is usually the cause. If you’re on a laptop with NVIDIA, again its a bug. After working on the latest MBPro 2017, all these issues disappeared for me.
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