[Nick Mcmahon]

[Edward Troxel] “Please note that the “M” in the video card name means it is a “Mobile” video card. It can drop to a lower powered less compatible GPU if you do not go into the video driver settings and specify that it stay in full powered mode when Vegas is running. Other apps may also need to be added to the “full powered” mode list (such as Titler Pro).”

Many thanks Edward…. that is news to me and by the sounds of it important news as of course without being at full power it makes sense that one wouldn’t be getting the full range of performance.. I would have assumed that the makers of the Mobile GPU’s woulda already considered this and built in the necessary defaults to ensure this was not a manual selection process but rather happens automatically….? I mean who would ever want their GPU to be working at less than maximum…? We choose to purchase based on the numbers that can be attained by a given graphics card and I can’t think of any time I’d want to use it at half speed… I’d always want everything it can give me in terms of performance!!

Am I missing something…? Oh hang on… are you referring to the ‘Switchable graphics’ list I saw with the AMD Catalyst software…? You can choose which programs can be selected to use the ‘High Performance’ mode…?

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many thanks John… 🙂

Now I can make a more informed decision about the use of faster data access using RAID to suit my needs as they change over time in repect of SVP.

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[John Rofrano] “Note that the limitation of using older cards only affects the encoders like MainConcept that are quite old. Don’t confuse timeline GPU acceleration that will take advantage of the latest GPU’s with encoder GPU acceleration that in some cases is locked to older GPU’s.”

That is an important aspect to consider… thanks for establishing that John.

So…. with that in mind how does all this relevant information differ with the ‘M’ version of GPU’s designed to be small and fit inside a laptop…?

Does the reduction in size and relative performance actually reduce their differences to a level one can’t distinguish in real terms while using SVP…? (for instance the GTX 970M is rated to run at 80% of the performance of it’s desktop big brother the 970…?)

This claim made by the guys at https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ is that their tests with Vegas shows no difference between the Nvidia and the AMD GPU’s. I’ll go back and get all the detail I can about the in-house tests they claim to have run using Vegas with both different GPU’s (sorry I didn’t ask which version of SVP… DOH !)

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[John Rofrano] ” Personally, I use the same model number drives (i.e., i don’t mix model numbers even within the same manufacturer)”

Thanks John… a bit more reading and some phone discussions with the incredibly helpful guys who are going to build my new workstation laptop had brought me to that conclusion.

However… I now need to re-phrase the question about RAID and ask it specific to SVP because I was making assumptions that RAID data access makes everything improve in terms of efficiency.

So…. In what way does having faster access to data via RAID 0 improve overall performance of SVP….? (based on my assumption it would)

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[Dave Haynie] “As other have mentioned, you’re not going to get Main Concept AVC fast rendering with that chip.”

Many thanks for your input Dave… real world experience having used both Nvidia and AMD in a laptop with SVP which is exactly what I was hoping to hear about.

I’m liking the idea of Frameserving to render in x264 and Norman is very nicely giving me a heads up on his system to use ffmpeg. This for me is based purely on the suggestion of better quality output but apparently it’s also a faster process.

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[Sorin Nicu] “Sadly only the GTX480, Quadro 2000, GTS450 where used by Vegas fully.”

Now we’re getting somewhere… thanks Sorin… Are you of the opinion that the 480M chip will give greater Vegas performance than the 970M….?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-480M.30196.0.html

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-970M.126694.0.html

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[Sorin Nicu] “n my opinion, stop wasting money on laptops for video editing. Get a decent desktop – it will provide more bang for the buck, it can be upgraded later, and will be a longer term investment than a laptop.”

Your opinion to not bother with a laptop and go desktop is absolutely good advice although in the context of my query is over simplifying and not actually answering the question …. Vegas does work with laptop sized architecture, even if restricted by a variable percentage due to harware configs and current sizing restrictions and although I will eventually be in a position to hang my hat on the same hook every day, currently I can’t do that, so primarily I need a portable solution to allow me to maximise the time I can spend becoming more skilled at editing with Vegas. I don’t view my laptop purchase as an investment… it’s the cost of a tool I need to perform a job and carries no real residual value. The true value for me is measured in the cumulative time I get to use the tool. Time is the most valuable asset I believe we all have and the more time I get to spend using a tool the more real value it accumulates for me…. but now I’m leading into a whole other subject which isn’t relative to this question.

So I just really need to find out from the community here (if possible) in fact this apparent benchmarking of SVP using laptop architecture with the 2 different GPU’s, reported verbally to me today, fits the model of experience from people that might have actually had the opportunity to try both GPU’s with Vegas in a laptop, or if anyone has also read any such information that concurs…?

I guess more specifically, has anyone used the GTX 970M with Vegas which I’ve pre-selected in the above configuration…?

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Thanks for that Grazie…. it’s on my list for exploration as a possible once I’ve got this new machine up and running how I want.

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[Kell Hymer] “2.7K just eats up data fast….especially once converted to Cineform. I think I’m going to need a pair of 6TB HDDs!”

I just read the Hero 4 BLK has a recent update which gives it 720 @240fps… and the 2.7k @60… that sure will give you some massive files in cineform but as you say the freedom to crop out any fisheye edge distortion you don’t like.

I don’t yet have a Hero 4… I like to wait my time with new edition’s of the Gopro and let other people find the bugs instead… and the price come down.

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[Kell Hymer] “Hope that helps!”

Indeed the tech forums are full of super highly strung geeks who all have their own opinion and believe they are right… echoes of a religion me thinks… 🙂

Awesome explanation Kell… no-one could possibly fail to comprehend exactly what the pagefile is and how your OS uses it…. the time you took to write that is very much appreciated and I hope others benefit from it.

I have my new laptop here now as well as this old one…. only a few days old but currently in the process of taking it apart to modify it even more.

Came with 16 gb but going to double it to 32gb…. plus I’m planning on installing an mSATA drive AND moving the hybrid to an external enclosure via USB 3.0 and replacing internally with an SSD exactly the same size as the mSATA… my theory was to be able to try using a software RAID 0 stripe on these 2 solid state configs and get super lightning speed access to data with a partition on the permantly attached hybrid HDD for daily incremental imaging for recovery if either of the SSD’s go bust.

Do you have any experience with RAID 0 and as such any tips setting this up…? I have no idea if it will even work between the mSATA and a standard SSD… but I see no reason why it wouldn’t providing they are exactly the same capacity.

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