Neil Goodman
Forum Replies Created
-
Thanks Oliver,
This was extremely helpfull for me as I have been forced into using premiere at the shop Im working at the moment.
I was really struggling with the UI because it felt like I never had enough screen real estate to accommodate how I would setup a normal workspace in Avid. Im on dual 24 inch screens and I usually like to have my source records rather small, so my timeline can be most of the screen as I do alot of sound design usually, but I like my timeline and source/record on the same screen.
My standard – “do work” Avid timeline usually looks like this. Doesnt seem like I can get the right screen/ timeline ration PPro but Ive been playing around with some of your configs and i like the tabbed Source/Record Single Monitor setup you got going.
screenshot2012-11-09at12.28.02pm.png
-
[Michael Gissing] “You are the one that’s been conditioned to accept a narrow subset of tools. You just don’t get that other people are constantly using a variety of tools in ways that you will never understand and that includes X. So they have valid positions to argue from.
“
So much this….
If you were cutting multicam Day one – what were you to do? If you had to send out to Pro Tools Day one – what were you to do? If you needed a broadcast monitor or even an external for a client to watch and review cuts -What were you to do?
Thats why alot of us dismissed it outright. Those are real everyday needs of ALOT of editors.
Still no decent timecode solution – but yea since Bill doesnt need timecode – why should he care?
My needs as an editor are fairly simple. Offline workflow – mostly straight cuts/ dips to blacks and the majority of it really based on doing crazy audio beds and sound design, but no external monitor meant absolutely no dice and no way to send to Protools was impossible for me as well.
Sure things have changed and I’ll use X on personal stuff where I see fit, but day one – alot of us had alot to be upset about – the fact you dont care to acknowledge that speaks volumes.
-
[Bill Davis] ”
Oddly, I see it as an important learning stage for Apple.”I see it as apple getting burned by their own attempt at innovation….again. remember the cube?
They tried to jam a computer into a form factor didnt make sense. They had to develop this crazy airflow schism because they refused to give people something normal that would just work. Nothing wrong with a tower, tried and tested, but they had to be different. Look at where it got them. Same with the touchbar – who needs it, no one certainly asked for it.
I know you’d rather them swing for the fences but some people just need a solution that works especially when investing thousands of dollars.
[Bill Davis] “These are VERY complex devices. “
Yet somehow HP and Dell anf the countless other computer manufacturers can deliver a product without completely throwing out years and years of development out the window and giving customers what they actually need instead of what the assume the customer wants?
-
[Oliver Peters] “I work with one of these and am generally happy with it, but of course, you have to augment the connectivity. That approach is pretty typical of Apple and works for some and not for others. Where they really misjudged was in the non-upgradeable, dual GPUs. Only their apps take advantage of that. Other apps drive the system to overheat one of the GPUs, which often causes spikes/glitches in the rendered video. Basically I can trust an iMac or old Mac Pro tower to give me flawless encodes/renders. With the nMP, it’s a crapshoot.
“Yea I was on one at an old gig for a few months and it worked fine, just glad I didnt invest my own dollars in one.
-
I’m just still bummed that Apple, one of the best hardware producers in the world, came out with a long awaited “MacPro”, only for it to be admittedly a dud. Now we have to wait another few years to get what we should of just got in 2013. That said – Im almost positive the current imac’s and coming Imac pro will have more than enough juice for all editorial needs.
-
[Bill Davis] “My point is that nearly everyone’s information feeds today are pre filtered by virtue of what you search for and consume most often. If you looked at my information feeds, you’d see that there’s a ton of X related news and content in it. That’s because it’s a specific interest of mine and Google, et al – understand that and feed me more. It’s no different than a couple having a baby – starting to search for baby stuff – and finding their feeds full of cribs and formula coupons. It’s how the whole internet works now.
If you read about Premiere or AVID or Resolve – you get fed MORE Premiere or AVID or Resolve stories. So much so that it can make you think that the products you prefer are the ones that most others prefer as well, even in cases where that might not be an accurate view of the actual market. “
Sure that makes sense, but nothing about your original post put it in that context, or at least I missed it ☺
-
I don’t have a bias, I’m cutting on Premiere right now and I hate it. The shop I’m in at the moment didn’t ask what I use, nor did I think to ask what they have. I’d rather be using X since Avid isn’t available.
People may be using X all over the world on high end cutting edge entertainment, but besides a handful of people there not using it in LA. Sony has a division that does content pieces for theatrical releases and that’s the only place I’ve heard that Switched over to X.
As far as having to go out of your way to see content produced in Avid or Ppro that’s kind of a crazy statement to make. I get it your a die hard apple evangelist but come on now?
-
If all the Hollywood shops all of the sudden switch to X, more likely they’ll just train experienced editors in their respective mediums to use X, rather than hire an editor just because they know the kit.
Avid shops hire FCP 7 and Premiere people all the time and vice versa with the assumption that if their hiring a competent editor, the tool doesn’t matter. A few days of working out the kinks is worth it to them for a talented editor. See it happen all the time.
Still waiting after almost 7 years to see X out in the wild here in LA. Obviously Charlie Austin is using it and using it well to deliver high end marketing work but he’s the only one I’ve heard doing so and I hear people talk about X here. When’s the shoe going to drop ?
-
I feel like we’ve been over the pros and cons of each kit time 1,000,000 on this forum.
I bought Avid cause thats what I like to use, and 99.9% of my jobs are on Avid. I went through a small stint freelancing a few years ago and purchased a license. I keep it up to date annually now for 300 bucks to stay current with the softwares progression.
FCP 7 because of the same reason s above.
FCP X because I was curious and it was only 300 bucks
PPro on and off again subscription just in case I need to use it, it is definitely my LEAST favorite NLE. Runs like crap on a system that runs Avid, and FCPX like butter. Functionally feels likes a mish mash of FCP7 and Avid but without the best traits of each one. Media management is the weakest of the 3 and I feel like its going to break all the time doing normal stuff.
-
FCP 7, Avid, FCPX, and PPro subscription.