[Neil Goodman]

Ppro is buggy as hell for me. Way more so than FCPX and Avid.

Constantly lose audio – like it just stops playing and i basically have to close the sequence and re open to get audio back – a bunch of other little lame things like if I wiggle my mouse during playback I drop frames, etc.

I never have full crashes or lockups but so many little nagging things that make it a frustrating experience for me on the daily.

The other apps may lockup from time time or completely poof – but regular day to day editing is a smooth as youd expect from a modern NLE.

[Neil Goodman]

Useful for some – but for a “major update” like they are calling it and especially a NAB update this is a bit meh..

bring on a roles based mixer, updated trim tools, and some timecode options and Id be a happy camper.

[Neil Goodman]

pumped on the new timecode window.

[Neil Goodman]

[Bret Williams] “And let’s not forget all other NLEs have multiple browser windows. So I can have interview selects open in list view on one part of the screen, and b-roll as thumbnails in another window. GFX perhaps in another window. So when I need an asset there’s not all this mucking about resorting, switching to favorites, switching to list view for VO for a good waveform then back to large thumbnails to view graphics. And to be able to manually sort and edit to timeline like Avid or Premiere would be a big plus.
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Thanks for pointing this out as Ive been wanting to bring this up for a while. Its currently a huge limitation in an otherwise awesome organizational environment.

[Neil Goodman]

[Robin S. Kurz] “Making it even more of an island than Avid.
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huh?

[Neil Goodman]

I think it also depends largely on the materials your working on.

If your shooting most of your own stuff and tagging the metadata yourself, and have a relaxed turnaround schedule I can see how that would be helpful in the edit.

In my world, you really only have time to start watching footage right away and making selects. Not much organizing other than “DIALOUGUE & VISUALS” and MAYBE i might do separate reels or keywords for the different types of Visuals (scope, action, etc.) Last year I was doing lots of co brand commercials for ESPN and there was no extra metadata attached to the footage other than the normal stuff like codec and resolution. If I was lucky Id have storyboards and usually very poor script notes. These are multi million dollar shoots with lots of eyeballs and sometimes movie tie ins and still no metadata in sight.

[Neil Goodman]

[Martin Curtis] “[Neil Goodman] “No diss on youtubers but the #1 reason I choose an NLE has nothing to do with a Share button. That might be the 500 reason on my list.”

But that’s what was important to him. That was the catalyst for him to change. As he dived deeper, he found many reasons to stick with FCPX which may keep him using it even if Adobe sorts out their sharing feature.

For the record, I hate the word “share” used in this context. It’s an export, Apple, an export.”

I completely understand as it applies to him – I was just stating my opinion that for me exporting is the least of my worries. For some people like myself – the only exporting we do is same as source – then someone else takes it from there.

[Neil Goodman]

[Oliver Peters] “Nope. I think it’s absolutely worse with Premiere and FCPX. First of all, Avid’s current storage is Nexis, and according to Avid, they’ve worked hard to make the other NLEs equal clients. So definitely ISIS is tweaked more for Avid.

Second, you are generally dealing with Avid-optimized media, that also helps. In my experience, both Premiere and FCPX don’t perform nearly as well on shared storage than they do on local storage. Are your systems connected to ISIS as 1GigE or 10GigE? I would image that if you have 50 machines cranking with anything other than low-res proxies, your system will choke.
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Not sure if its 1 Gig or 10 tbh – and admittedly Im not a super technical person – just show up and cut – never had to maintain a computer myself.

Its interesting that the NEXUS is that much different with NLES – I saw some people order new NEXUS gear only to have ISIS gear showup, with a NEXUS sticker slapped on? Might’ve been old stock.

What would be the best codec for our AE’s to use for Premiere Proxies? Maybe I can pass on some info.

[Neil Goodman]

[Oliver Peters] “Honestly, I’d blame the ISIS more so than the Macs or Premiere. Your systems probably work well with Media Composer.
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You are correct, Media Composer 8.6 works great on this box – no issues at all. Unfortunately Avid projects are far and few between with only a handful of clients requesting we do our projects in Media Composer. Pretty much Premiere for everything else.

You think ISIS work worse as shared storage with PPro and FCPX than it does with Avid? Id figure performance would be the same because technically its just storage?

[Neil Goodman]

[Steve Connor] “Have they expanded and upgraded the 2010 Mac Pros? FCPX used to run very well on my 2008 Mac Pro with Sapphire 7950 card
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I cant speak to everyone’s individual computers but this one is a 5.1 2.4 quad with 32 gigs of ram and just the ATI 5870 which is surely part of the problem.

We’re not using FCPX here although it is installed and I have seen how it runs which is about what youd expect with a 1gb GFX crd