[Neil Goodman]

[Oliver Peters] “I think the fact that FCPX still doesn’t have a good answer to collaborative workflows is also a hindrance to adoption in this market.”

Maybe but PPRO’s was pretty lame at it too up until the latest versions (haven’t tried it out myself yet – were still on 2017)

At work now – we have the most ridiculous “shared” workflow ever using PPRO. All the media is on a ISIS and then basically just an Editor exports their latest cut as a PPRO project and then if your the lucky one that picks it up for revisions or cutdowns you import that timeline into your current project. Then repeat until a cut is locked. Its a pain and gets very messy.

I also think alot of it has to do with prospective jobs. If I was in LA and trying to get into TV and Film, it would be dumb to ignore Avid, and secondary PPRO. I aslo find people pay Avid editors higher rates for freelance jobs then jobs on PPRO, and the very very few freelance listings I have seen for FCPX (non bordcast/film) were super duper low. Could have something to do with it too.

[Neil Goodman]

[Andy Neil] ” 2 trailer houses,”

which Trailer houses?

I know Charlie is using it over there but curious where else?

[Neil Goodman]

I work in LA in trailers and promos – you would think this is where FCPX would really shine and be super adoptable, but when I try and spark conversations about it I’m usually met with raised eyebrows and sarcastic responses.

Most people simply don’t have any interest or never looked further than the botched roll out. Most facilities managers and post supes wont give it the time of day and mot editors simply don’t care – they cut on what the post house provides – beyond that they just want to go home at a decent hour and see their families.

I think the roll out is what ultimately killed its chances here. I also think the audio capabilites and flexibilities have handicapped it for alot of shortform editors with the lack of a mixer or true bussing.

As stated before we are 7 years in, FCPX is no doubt a fully capable NLE that does a couple things better than the competition yet still no one over here is taking it seriously for whatever reason.

Cue all the people that will ay Hollywood is such a small niche and it doesnt matter – well hate to break it to you but corporate is also a small niche, so is weddings, so is v-logs – Hollywood just happens to be a small niches that gets the most eyeballs.

I also don’t believe that X is on a 10 year cycle and their just going to kill it and start over again. Hopefully years 10-20 see some major growth or it will continue to serve its current niche and serve it well. who really knows?

[Neil Goodman]

First of all Im a total apple guy, I have basically everything they make except a watch and the homepod and I dont plan on buying a PC for my home anytime soon because an I mac is all ill ever need at home.

but..I’m not a fanboi by any means. The Apple design for computers have gotten old and stale. All you have to do is look at the product line since the first silver macbook pro’s became available . Nothings changed since, except its gotten skinnier and lost a lot of ports – the same design is still there at the core.

Same with I macs – in the last 10 or so years they’ve only gotten skinnier as far as design.

People buy them (including myself) because of i phone/ ipad integration and because Apple has/had marketing aimed at youth and pop cultures and because people think they are cool. Its a status symbol as others pointed out, but I can admit – ill pay a premium for it but in no way am I blindly thinking I have a superior product than most of the competition.

[Neil Goodman]

[Bill Davis] ” When the modular MacPro arrives – wait a year and see what happens in overall computer design.
“

Just like how every one copied the trash can…oh wait ☺

[Neil Goodman]

[greg janza] “I think that’s a great idea and I have the same reaction to some of the posts here.
“

I don’t know, I like reading from all different scopes of post and in this thread, lots of pre pro. Im in such a narrow lane of post that I learn a lot from you guys and your specific disciplines…even sometimes Robin. I feel like have it relatively easy compared to you guys except maybe my hours and deadlines and if there were a trailer/promo section I feel like Id be the only one it, lol .

[Neil Goodman]

After reading this thread I’m so glad I don’t have to shoot or record anything, nor worry about codecs in the slightest. I’m not sure I could keep up these days. The last thing I shot was on a 16mm in film school.

[Neil Goodman]

its great to have so many viable options these days.

I don’t see either FCPX or Resolve dethroning Adobe or Avid in the markets that they dominate now. I also don’t think FCPX users are going to switch to something with tracks or without the organizational features of X because those are two of FCPX unique and strongest points.

I do love that all these apps are pushing each other in development. It seems like FCPX is developing at the slowest rate at the moment so it will be interesting to see what apple has up it sleeves when it does drop a big update.

[Neil Goodman]

What’s that got to do with anything? It’s still a debate forum centered around FCPX btw with just a less snarky name. No one in this thread even brought up the merits of X.

[Neil Goodman]

[Bill Davis] “and they are doing a VERY deep dive into what modern working professionals might want,”

They said that about the trashcan too. Boy were they wrong that time, and the discontinuing it w/o even one upgrade cycle is proof of that.

Hoping they are actually listening and not just to the bits they want to hear.