Neal Petrosky
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It’s been happening to me quite a bit. I end up just quiting and restarting. Adobe is really going down hill on the quality of their releases.
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I think you’re going to spend more time than it’s worth trying to hide it using mocha or other removal tools.
I’d go with what Dave said and just put something over it. What’s the context of the shot? Since it’s so low resolution, if it’s for a documentary or something like that, I’d leave it. Any attempt to cover it could be more distracting than the timecode itself. -
Thank you all.
So the agency we did the work for is who I’ve been talking to. I do not have access to the client or there new agency of record. So we don’t have any way of offering our services directly to the new AOE, nor does it sound like they want to work with outside production houses (I was told they’d like to keep all work in house).
However, I did give our point of contact a buyout number for the project files with the disclaimer that things may not work correctly if they don’t have all of the plugins.
I also gave them a number to do the revisions they were hoping to have done in house.
They came back to me saying that the client wants it as inexpensive as possible and just wishes to change out a logo rather than rebrand the entire video (which is dumb but… whatever it’s their video).So it looks like we’ll make a little bit of money off this… not much…mere pocket change to you guys I bet, but it’s better than nothing.
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Thanks Mark…
You’re not telling me anything new, just reenforcing what I already thought, which is great to hear from a more seasoned professional. -
Late to the game on this one but thought I’d put my 2 cents in anyway.
1. It’s a student film… give him the footage and just address any issues with your professor. I understand that part of the student film is learning how to work together… but really if it has anything to do with a class, then you talk to the teacher. If a person decided not to write or do any research for a group paper, you’d talk to the teacher and just give them a heads up that although it was completed so and so did nothing… make sure you can provide evidence.2. If it’s a true student film, tough to break it to you but the school owns the footage… ESPECIALLY if you used any of their gear. Go re-read your student handbook. Just like if a student works on a scientific experiment and uses the school’s lab to do the research, those results are property of the school.
Don’t fret too much about who owns what… the short (and I’m sorry but not sorry) probably sucks… but as long as you can use it to get your foot in the door for a job after graduation (and ya know, don’t fail the class due to him walking off), who cares. Chalk it up to a life lesson you’ve just learned without having to eat costs for a client.
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I also encourage internships. My company gets 1 or 2 a semester from the local university. It helps these kids get real world experience at a small boutique shop where we do everything from copywriting to filming to animation. It lets them see how clients work, how we manage expectations and our work flow. If they show enough talent and dedication, they get to do a rough cut on a project. But they also do grunt work (file naming and transfer, matching audio to video, composition prep etc…). Attitude at an internship is the most important though. I tell all my interns, whether its about a script we’re writing or an animation etc… to ASK QUESTIONS. I don’t know what you know and don’t know, and I certainly don’t mind explaining why I’m doing something a certain way. And sometimes that makes me think of an easier/better way to do something.
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Late on the reply, but we’re moving forward with billing the client.
[Richard Herd] “If you have a working project file, with working media, and with an operable version of FCP7, then by definition the project is up to speed. Crank it out in 7 and submit the invoice.”
The reason why this wouldn’t be optimal is although we have FCP on this particular computer, the computer is not the same as the one that created the video, and some plugins didn’t make the switch over to this machine. Also, we wanted it in premiere so that multiple people can work on the project.
Thanks everyone for all their input. I’ve also adjusted our standard contract to include wording regarding the archiving of the project file and raw video. We don’t really dump anything at all, but I’d rather have it spelled out that we’re not responsible for lost files following the completion of the project just in case.
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I’m thinking that your lawyer clients had a friend/family member get it in their ear that they “should have gotten” all of the additional deliverables. Tough. You’ve offered a discounted rate. Talk to a lawyer if they get threatening but move on. Don’t offer anything else other than full price based on the footage that you have.
I am mostly a corporate video and tv commercial producer, but I’ve shot enough weddings for a friends company to know the basic packages. The lowest/basic is the 5 min trailer plus the ceremony…
My point is that the 5 minutes only is pretty standard. What they are asking for is insane and the premiere package.
I disagree with the people saying you need to make sure they’re happy. I’m sorry but they are lawyers, there’s a signed contract, I’m sure it was discussed what was being delivered. If they post something on Yelp, you can argue it… Allowing these people to get what they want hurts your reputation and just makes them think they are better/above you (which they probably already do…because lawyers).Depending on the nature of the correspondence, referring them to your lawyer now may be your best bet.
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Well Vimeo is a little different. It actually gives you the ability to watermark your stuff. Everything that we want to put on our site, we use Vimeo to host… and each one gets a watermark on it. In that respect, I really don’t see an issue. Vimeo is what we use for self promotion, so it falls under that category. Handing a client a final video with a watermark is something entirely different.
And as Walter mentioned above, its best to get clearance to post the video from your client (we have it stated in our contract that any final videos can be used for self promotion, but its still a good idea to ask). -
We do a lot of corporate videos. The only time we EVER put a logo on our work is if it is pro-bono and it’s a contact info slide at the end of the video.
However, being involved with a few wedding video companies, I’ve noticed in that industry it is much more common to see both a logo slate before the video (sort of during the music…) as well as a watermark through out the entire video.
One of those same companies does the slate for corporate gigs they’ve picked up. Personally, I think that’s crap and I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve had to fight for that, and have walked away from gigs when they weren’t able to do it.
I suppose in the end, it is all about who is the client/what industry you are doing it for.