Neal Petrosky
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Extremely late to the thread but was killing time looking at past subjects.
I have to agree with Todd, but it also depends on how you are hired. Are you a production house that is setting up the talent, location scouting, obtaining permits, doing the filming (or directing it if not physically being an operator), and then editing, finding RF music tracks, voice over, paying these people? If so.. I’d say everything captured is yours (or your company’s) and you should charge a fee for handing that footage over. And even with that, as Todd pointed out, you may have some release issues with handing over footage.
If you’re just getting hired to shoot… of course, but charge more as you’re losing out on the editing side of things.
It all comes down to communication with the client. Don’t tell them, educate them.
For my company, we are 99% of the time the producer… we do everything from concept to final production. We’re still stuck in that middle tier, so we haven’t had too many issues with handing over footage, but we do have it in our contract that there is a fee for us to do that. This is conveniently non specified because I’m not going to hold ourselves to a dollar amount. It depends on the project.
However, I would never EVER hand over any project files (premiere, AE etc…)… those are proprietary, very often contain licensed plug ins/fonts/graphics that they wouldn’t have access to even if we did hand it over.We also quote our projects based on what the final production is. So no, you are not hiring me to shoot stuff and archive it for you, you are hiring me to deliver a 1x :30 spot (or whatever) and that’s it. Anything else, you pay for.
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I think with the signs you are running into a bit more of a complicated situation. With the cars, you are advertising a car (make/model) for the dealership, and since legally (in a lot of states anyways) car manufactuers cannot sell directly to the public, they are dependent on dealerships. Every dealership can have its own incentives (free oil changes for a year etc…) but like stated above, most have to adhere to compliance (if they expect co-op. I’ve done spots where they don’t get co op so we can do whatever we want).
For signs, you are now using trademarks of other company’s. The end client better have it in their contract that they can use photography/videography of signs they’ve built for their own advertising purposes.
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We use Square for a specific client. However, our general contract states that we do not accept credit cards, due to the fee’s that are incurred. If a client insists (this is usually so that they can get rewards from their CC) then we tack on a % on top for processing. Unfortunately it’s not a “neat” way to do it, but due to having to use Square, wait for the money to process through that application, then finally get deposited in our account, and finally for me to have to go in and manually match the transaction (because the amount of $ deposited will never be the exact amount you wrote the invoice for), it’s a small price for that company to pay.
Remember, taking CC are for the client’s convenience. That convenience should cost them money, it shouldn’t cost you your money and time.
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Todd, I’m completely in agreement and glad I’m not the only one that sees it that way.
I was hoping if anyone had any analytical data… something to pull up and say “See… I’m not making this up just to be a pain in the ass, but because I’m trying to do what actually works for you”. I’ve been making commercials for a few years and you’re right… the client is, at the end of the day, the one that is right even when they’re wrong. -
I think we’ll just have to disagree with your general view of the message. Hometown, local, etc… that’s fine. But the reality is that most suburban areas are still growing with new people moving in. And also, everyone has the internet connected to them in their pocket (ok 99% of the people do). My point is, you want them to find you. If you have name, local address, local # and web address, then the person’s ability to remember any of that is basically gone.
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Thanks Dave. Just a quick question…
[Dave LaRonde] “In either case, field order in AE will be Lower Field First.”
when you say in either case I’d need to do lower first, are you referring to both the 1080 clip and the SD, or just whatever SD resolution I use. I always assumed that since 1080i60 was still being broadcast, it should be lower first, but I’ve had a TV station tell me upper first. -
Thanks Dave…the footage is shot on an HVX200a and cut in FCP. I usually export via Quicktime at HD 960×720 with no compression.
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Awesome…so there is no way to just download a seperate codec for quicktime…i have to update FCP???
Anyone know where i can find FCP6? I can only find 7, but of course thats only for intel macs and i have the last G5 made before the switch to intel chips.
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That helps a lot! Are there any real differences? And are there any plans for the 205A to be released in the US?