[Nancy L. sutton smith]

No, that is what I said in my first sentence about this not being a clip volume question. The VU clip level is the same in Premiere and Media Composer. Media Composer plays it considerably louder. So it is the output of the software, not a clip adjustment. I created a video example of the problem, but it was lost in the Creative Cow approval system.

Nancy L. Sutton Smith
Northeast Community College
Mass Media/Journalism/Post Production Instructor
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

Hi David,

“Well, see the fifth way option in my post below Scott… It’s actually a very elegant solution in many cases.”

I don’t see that ‘post below’ and I would really like to know the fifth way. I am dealing with 4/3 camcorder footage and scaling and stretching just hammers it. If you could direct me to that post I would so appreciate it.
Nancy

Nancy L. Sutton Smith
Northeast Community College
Mass Media/Journalism/Post Production Instructor
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

I wish you guys would pick this conversation back up with the roll out of MC V8 on subscription and PP CC. I am a college instructor, making the decision soon about what to teach in our Post Production 2,3, and 4 classes. I also have both MC8 and PP-CC on a new IMac and I am cutting a documentary with majority archival tape footage. The project was built in AVID but it is just started and I can switch to Premiere easily. I have cut half hour shows on FCP, half hour shows on MC a long time ago, and many shorter videos in Premiere all the way back to 6.5.
I felt sure we as a college had to go to AVID. We are a ProTools certified site because of our Audio Production program. We are a two year school, starting a Digital Cinema program and I want to give students the best tools going out the door. I will also teach After Effects, Cinema 4D and a little Maya in Post Production 3 and 4.
My experiences with this documentary make me doubt our need for Media Composer. Before starting this project, I made myself go all the way through the Lynda tutorials so I would remember MC fully. But it is just not intuitive. I am a left hand shortcut user but Premiere is just faster. No, Premiere hasn’t been nearly as solid as FCP because I taught it daily for 7 years at the same time I was cutting half hour shows at night on FCP 7. Premiere was constantly crashing on my high school students and FCP never did.
But now, with MC and PP running at the same time on my IMac, Premiere wins for ease of use. If there isn’t something I am missing about output, encoding, codecs… I may cut this hour show on Premiere and not feel like I need to get my college students certified in MC.

Nancy L. Smith
President
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

Those guys at the head of this post were a bundle o laughs.
Yes, I have been having this problem a lot. I was blaming it on the laptop I am using when I can’t be on my desktop. My work around is to re-export the section where the black flash frame appeared. I just exported a 40 second comp – completely standard AVI and had 4 big black hits in various places. Very annoying. When I re-render that small area it’s fine so I just patch the ‘holes’ as it were.

Nancy L. Smith
President
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

Thank you! You were exactly right! I appreciate the attachment so much.

Nancy L. Smith
President
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

Thank you Danny! I began to realize that the more I read. So my question is still – why is that pull down menu there to the left in the track? I think it is a label for the DVD player and TV – so if you are using Dutch – the menu button says “Dutch”. Is that correct?

Nancy L. Smith
President
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

I would like to get involved in this “red frame” discussion because it happens on MPEG files. Here is the quote from adobe Frames that are unable to be decoded by Premiere Pro will be replaced with a solid red frame.

I am a high school media teacher and we have edited very successfully with Sony HDD camcorders & CS3 for 2 years without any red frame problems. This year my program moved to a brand new CTE Academy – new computers with CS5 BUT the district didn’t realize we needed Windows 7. So with new computers they gave us CS3 temporarily and NOW we have the red frame issue. This version is 3.0.0 and I am hoping when I ask them to upgrade to 3.2.0 it will go away again. WHAT was Adobe thinking with a RED FLASH. Black flash would have been liveable for my classes but editing out tiny red frames for new media students is a nightmare!
We also now have an HD studio and are using DVCam HD tape so I expect to have the problems discussed in this thread.

Below is the Adobe link that talks about the red frame issue. BTW – MPEG camcorders work beautifully in a high school environment because students are uploading and working before the students working with tape have even hit File>Capture. I added that because too often people will bash MPEG and video editing. It worked great until this year!

https://kb2.adobe.com/cps/403/kb403179.html
Using the Event pallet
The Event pallet now lists errors found in MPEG streams during indexing and playback. This information can be useful in identifying and locating errors in your source video. Frames that are unable to be decoded by Premiere Pro will be replaced with a solid red frame.

Nancy L. Smith
President
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

I am a teacher with a cs3 lab and our pictures disappear in the timeline if they are too big. Even then, if students keyframe two pictures side by side and they have already been resized, one of them disappears. We randomly put crop on that one and even without adjusting anything, the picture came back. So resizing doesn’t solve this problem completely. I didn’t realize we should be resizing to the exact size of the project, so we will try that next time.

We have also had our MPEG 2 (we shoot with HDD cameras) video files disappear and after much frustration, moving the files to another drive, changing projects, we discovered that if we just move the entire project up a layer, everything showed back up. Even a project with 7 layers fixed itself by roping everything and moving up or down. Weird.

Nancy L. Smith
President
Sutton Bay Media Company

[Nancy L. sutton smith]

Both you guys mentioned video cards and that sounds hugely promising as a fix, considering the 2007 computers don’t do it. I will check all video cards, update drivers and get back to you. Thank you!!

Nancy L. Smith
President
Sutton Bay Media Company