Mitch Ives
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[Bouke Vahl] “May i remind you that currently Compact flash is the same price per minute as digibeta / HDcam tapes? (and take a bit less shelf…) “
True, but not as cheap as DV, DVcam, DVCpro, HDV, etc.which was the more common standard at the end of tape development.
I suppose it also depends on what CF cards you use? I don’t use the 133X models, which are cheaper, as buffer problems have occurred. The current SanDisk Extremes are around $120 ($100 with rebate) for 16GB cards. That’s what, about $6.25/GB. If I recall correctly, high quality DV/DVcam tape was around 40 cents/GB. Even the cheapest CF card seems to be around $3/GB, and I’m not sure it would be fast enough for full frame cameras.
You’re right, for the high end, you could just shelve the cards for a similar cost. Won’t it be nice when fast CF cards are cheap enough for everyone to do that… of course future cameras will probably require more expensive cards, and we’ll be chasing the rabbit again.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
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I guess I’m missing your point Bill? I think pointing out a workflow that mentions archiving is the only responsible way to answer a post like this, since one never knows the experience level of the person asking the question..
For those of us that have been using digital media since before these DSLRs existed, we’ve been through countless heart wrenching posts about how people didn’t archive first, and no longer have the original files with the metadata… or archived in a way that they cannot retrieve, etc. and are are now contemplating taking their own life.
Using the “voice of experience”, I can tell you that there is a serious pitfall to taking from the camera directly. I archive first, and then load from the archive. That way if there is a problem with the archiving process, I know it now, before the cards are erased. I can’t tell you how many posts we seen where they took it from the camera and edited it, and then later went back to the archived files to further edit… only to find them corrupted or improperly copied.
Tape was simple… you just put it on the shelf. Digital cards are a lot more perilous in terms of preserving the footage.I know, I’ve been living it since the advent of P2. Just my $.02…
Mitch Ives
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we copied everything off of the card into a folder. Obviously, we did something wrong, since it works for you. Thanks to you and Michael for pointing that out… time to get it right over here… thanks again.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
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[Lance Bachelder] “Maybe you need to change your production name to Incite since you insist on fighting every time you post.
After seeing your website I think you may better serve yourself and your clients by using your cash to improve your shooting, lighting and editing skills instead of blowing it all on overpriced gear. “
I’m the one inciting… interesting take…
Mitch Ives
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[Michael Sacci] “I would not recommend this at all. For one you will never have your raw files, they are your negatives, your tapes. Always copy them to a a HD with folder structure as it is on the card. Then do the Log and Transfer in FCP. That way there is a backup of the clips and you would normally want them on separate drives. You do not want to be working with the only copy of your media. This is rule #1 for tapeless workflows. “
I agree with your comment on the importance of archiving, but if you’ve figured out how to get Log & Transfer to bring in files copied from a card to a HD, using the same structure, then I’d love to hear how you do it, because it has never worked here. In fact the EOS plugin docs tell you that you can’t do it that way. Up until recently, you had two choices, use the camera so the EOS plugin can see the files, or make a disc image of the card. That can then be copied to a HD, where Log & Capture can see it.
Making disc images is a nightmare… it takes forever and makes archiving longer with a 5D than with P2 or any other digital format we work with. Fortunately, Red Giant Grinder came along, where they tell me you can use Log & Capture to bring in files copied to a HD using the same file structure as the card.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
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[Lance Bachelder] “Yes the similar rig as stated is over 5 grand from Zacuto – what am I making this stuff up? “
Since you want to get testy about it, I’ll play.
First, there is NOTHING that indiSystems makes that is remotely comparable to Zacuto, so this is a meaningless statement. Much like comparing a Bugatti Veyron to a Camaro… useless comparison.
I realize you have something to sell, so you need to pump up the Zacuto outfit, but I’m telling you that $2,500 will buy something way better than any indiSystems choice, so why don’t we all just be honest.
Under the truth in lending part of our program, I own a lot of Zacuto, and if I read your message correctly, you don’t, so we should probably throw that in the mix too…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
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five grand? I have the Cross-fire which is a pretty involved rig and with the follow focus, it’s between $2-2,500… even with the matte box, it’s no where near $5K…
Mitch Ives
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You might want to check with Jag35 to see if they’ve re-designed the cage yet. It wouldn’t work with the re-designed Zacuto Z-finder Pro, which is kind of the standard in the industry…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
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I have their snap gears. They are a really nice idea and the quality is good. It works great with my Zacuto focus. Haven’t tried their other stuff… but had no problems getting the delivery…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
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Thanks… time to buy…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.com
http://www.insightproductions.com