[Michael Moser]

Thanks…I think I’ve found my workflow….
XDCam Transfer (v2.12.0) will turn the .mp4 file into a Quicktime file which is importable to the FCP browser.
I guess that’s what you were talking about…I have to do this to each of the many files…

The inspector in Quicktime Player defines these files as XDCam EX.
Is that because XDCam transfer has rewrapped these as XDCam files or did they originate that way?
Are the above file structure that of an XDCam disk?
Mike

[Michael Moser]

I have Clip Browser 2.6, but what I was trying to do was log and transfer it within FCP 7.0.3. Not sure whether the FCP plugin is the latest, but I believe it is. I don’t have access to the footage now…I’ll try again tomorrow. It doesn’t have the same stuff a BPAV file has in it, like the CLPR file, etc. Interestingly it does say EX-1 on the outside folder along with other info…
-M

[Michael Moser]

Thanks Michael-

“…set the SDI/HDMI Output to either HDMI or SDI Out spigot to have the camera display information to run to the EVF.”

You are absolutely right! I didn’t blow up those speakers after all. Though you lose the regular sdi port, you still can have the display information fed through to the outboard viewfinder from the HDMI out and feed a clean signal to the Ki Pro Mini from the dual link.

Now the question is: Is it worth it to get the full dual link 4:4:4 for $3000+++ to take full advantage of the camera? I plan on going for it, though one must have an outboard 4:4:4 recorder like the Cinedeck or one of the others.

[Michael Moser]

Just to be clear…
When using an outboard viewfinder like the Cineroid or the Zacuto EVF, and recording to the KiPro Mini cleanly, there is no way to see the viewfinder display information..It’s one of those logistical gotcha’s (like when I blew out my father’s hifi speakers by hooking up the input and output of the recorder and blasted them with feedback by mistake).

When dual link is on, it turns off the HDMI port on the camera. A clean 4:2:2 signal is sent from port A of the dual link bnc connector on the camera and the outboard viewfinder needs to be connected to the HDMI out port of the Mini.
You’ll get a clean feed to the outboard viewfinder, but won’t have a record light in the display.

If you turn off the dual link, and feed the Mini from the sdi port on the camera, you need to make sure the display on/off in the menu is off. Unfortunately, that also turns off the display to the HDMI port also, so you have no camera information in the outboard viewfinder (fed from the camera’s HDMI port) in that case either.

Not a big deal, because both EVF and Cineroid viewfinders provide zebra and focus helpers…You just don’t have the other camera info; most importantly the record light.

When Zacuto comes out with their sdi version of the EVF, you’ll be able to feed that vf from the sdi and the Mini from the dual link…
The camera is able to separate display on/off to the standard video out, but that doesn’t help in this case.
-m

[Michael Moser]

That’s a feature not a defect. It means that if you connect a Ki Pro or other outboard recorder on the camera and have it triggered by time code, it won’t roll when you review footage. The play-out does work on the SDI out port, I believe…

[Michael Moser]

It does…
I got it to work by doing a reset….
There’s an interesting gotcha’ but it’s logical.
When I recalled my camera data after the reset…it didn’t work again!

Since the camera data was stored pre-firmware upgrade, that means there’s something in the old camera data that isn’t compatible with operation under the new firmware…I’ve got to reset my preferences and PP files and store them with the new firmware in the camera.

It makes sense when you think about it, but it means I’ve got to go back and reload the button assignments and PP’s.
-M

[Michael Moser]

See my post above…A solution is on the way!

[Michael Moser]

Am I mistaken or do the Sony F3 and the Panasonic AF100 have the same size sensors?

[Michael Moser]

[Craig Seeman]Sony is using 35mbps 4:2:0 in the F3 so that’d definitely not the case. The announced NXCAM Super35 is AVCHD 24mbps, I believe.

I was just speculating that Sony might offer that in an upgraded model since they’ve shown it could be done in the 500…
I think Noah is saying that this is the way they define each line, that is by codec, and that’s an artificial differentiator.
In any case, I agree that like a good set of lights, lenses are valuable as a long term investment.
BTW as far as lights go, I wouldn’t put a whole lot of money into HMI’s at this point…
Anyway, a good camera is one that makes you money and allows you to do your job in an efficient, flexible, and artful manner…
My Sony Z-1 is still working along with my betacam thanks to the KiPro.

I’m excited by the new possibilities offered by whatever large sensor cameras emerge. Maybe the F-3 is too in-the-middle…The Panasonic offers mainly the same thing at a lower price-point…
other than that the Sony will offer dual link and the ability to match cameras for 3D..You’ll still need a 4:4:4 on board recorder…I’d rather have a camera that records sound and has the other video functionalities…

[Michael Moser]

I agree..There’s a lot more to see post NAB next year…I think since Sony’s already has the 50mps/4:2:2 in an existing body, that’ll be the way she goes. I think Sony is less likely to cannibalize it’s line than Pana sonic. I think the AVCHD codec will remain competitive with the NXCAM and the sxs will be the upgrade path beyond the F3.
I’d like to get on the large sensor bandwagon, though I really don’t like to be building an erector set around my camera to put it on my shoulder.
-m