Michaelmaier
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Nobody knows the answer to this?
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Is this forum dead and even abandoned by Blackmagic themselves?
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The concert is about one hour. So quite long to use this approach. But thanks for the suggestion. If I can’t make it work in a simpler way I will give this a try.
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[Shane Ross] “Wait…they didn’t just record each show and have one recording per performance? They MIXED THE PERFORMANCES? WHO THE F%&^ DOES THAT and expect anyone to be able to edit to it?”
Honestly, I have never seen this before. I’m not sure why they did it. It makes no sense. Like you said, for a CD I could see it. Maybe they also want to use the audio to make a CD and are just trying to use the same audio mix for the video to save money. I don’t know. It’s crazy!
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[Shane Ross] “Here’s what I’d do.
Sync up the footage to each song they were shot with.”
You mean sync up the footage with each song from the final mix? How would you do that if each song in the final audio mix is made up from a mix between the 3 shows? If you sync the beginning it gets out of sync as it changes in the middle of the song to another show and then back etc.
[Shane Ross] “Choose the version of the song that is the better performance, use that as the base, and the footage that goes with it as the base.
If any shot from the other performances…good camera angle, great energy, or composition…look…I’d grab it and try to use it for a few seconds in the other performance. Make it sync up the best I can, but again, only use it for a couple seconds. I might even use a shot that’s cool in a completely different section than the one it occurs…”cheat” it. use it because it’s cool.
Fairly simple.”
I have the feeling you may not have understood the problem, if you say it’s fairly simple. It is definitely not. Fairly simple is a straight rock concert shot live with 10 cameras where the final audio mix is exactly from the same show. 😉
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Yes, the whole thing is odd.
You are correct that I’m trying to cut to the final audio. Because the final mix is a combination of the 3 shows, this basically dictates how I will have cut. The final audio is basically an unofficial EDL. So I don’t see a point in cutting it to anything but the final mix.
Yes, the audio guy gave me a rough list of how he pieced together the final mix, after I asked very “patiently”. But the problem here is that we have no timecode sync and the scratch audio tracks in camera are useless to sync. So I have to sync by eye, which is very difficult in some angles. Maybe if I was a musician. But I’m not. It would be fine if I had to sync only once per show. But this is not the case.
So the audio list, lets call it Audio Decision List, is not really that useful. It only tells me if I should look in concert 1,2 or 3 for the footage in that point of the timeline. But it doesn’t solve the sync problem. If I have to sync by eye on every cut, it will take forever.
It doesn’t solve the sync problem because it doesn’t give me a precise point where I should mark-in in the source video. It only gives me a precise point where that video should go in the timeline. Which won’t match because they have different 00:00:00 times. Who knows when the camera was started.
So I would have to find an absolute 00:00:00 before the ADL would make any sense. Because the ADL is just like 00:00:00-00:15:00 = concert 1, 00:15:00-00:35:00 =concert 3 etc. But where is 00:00:00 on each camera if they were started in different times? I mean, the cameras are not timecode synced.
I’m not sure if I’m being clear enough here.
But thanks again for trying to hep.
I did several concerts and it was always a straight forward multicam live editing job. You do the usual cheat with inserts etc. But this is something totally different.
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Did I get it right that it has a totally new interface, again? Which means we will have to relearn everything over?
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Sorry but I can’t share files for this project.
By the way it seems Blackmagic will announce Resolve 12 on NAB this week. LOL, I can’t even get Resolve 11 to work.
Does anybody think it’s going too fast and the releases are losing the relevance? It’s like build releases now just with a big fanfare.
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I can’t see the clips in the resolve media browser if this is what you mean. But I see them fine in Windows Explorer.
I would like to say again that Resolve 10 has no problems with the very same files. I actually uninstalled Resolve 11 and re-installed Resolve 10 and it’s now working normally again. So the problem seems to be Resolve 11. Not my system.
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Yes, they are .mov files recorded with the Hyperdeck Shuttle. Like I said it worked fine with Resolve 10 and I would also find ironic if it would have any problems with Hyperdeck recorded media, since it’s also a Blackmagic product.