Michael Belanger
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So how do you update without stepping all over the current version. I do my updates via the widget on the mac CC app.
Have not even looked for a download only option. My guess is to just wait it out as I am running an older MacPro and have current projects. This kinda reminds me of FCP X but not quite as extremeMB
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Looks like the last post was Nov 18 and the US Thanksgiving is fast approaching. I am thinking that waiting till mid December at the earliest might be a good jumping off point to install some updates. I was going to do so today but read all these bugs and just don’t need the hassle. Truthfully I may just wait till January… Anyone know what the state of bugs are as of today?? Dave LaRonde seems to have his finger on the pulse of this patient. Well Dave alive or barely breathing ?
Mike B
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The system I am running is par for the course .. MacPro tower 8 core 2009… running Yosemite. I have the
GTX 680 which according Adobe should work. I chatted with Adobe for quite a bit this morning to basically discover that the issue is a combo of the OS, cuda driver, motherboard and the card. Well not too holes to fill there. I have discovered that the issue really becomes apparent when I have multiple sequence tab and pop back and forth. Once the screen becomes glitchy you pretty much have to restart. As well, I found using OPEN CL not CUDA seems flawless so far. Of course Adobe suggest using Mercury engine software only but how practical is that. Adobe has no formula for a good motherboard and specific GPU and OS… They don’t even specifically recommend any card as the best one. SO it seems cuda cores is irrelevant these daysAs a general rule, as I have been doing this for 30 years, I do a clean install to new OS on a new drive and a modest migration manually so that I can evaluate apps performance and reliability. You can find out pretty quickly that some things will work and others won’t so with a working boot drive you have some flexibility. Plus I do have some clients who still use FCP 7 so it makes it easier to go back painlessly. The cuda driver in this scenario is installed through system pref using the Nvidia module.
What I cannot get over the size of this thread.. this has been an issue for a couple years it seems. You’d think by now it would not be an issue. I was also told that El Captan does not resolve anything and this seems to be focused on the CUDA driver itself. I guess now I know why some people still use FCP 7 and an old OS.
Mike Belanger
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Is there a definitive answer for this problem… the glitchiness issue…. I scanned this thread and some comments are from all over the last year or so but yours seems relatively recent. Is this issue isolated with Yosemite or just a PP and hardware issue. A giant pain in the rear for sure. But I would still prefer PP to FCP X anyday
Mike Belanger
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Yes indeed… if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. But unfortunately the powers that be really force you to upgrade because some software simply won’t run on older OS. The original days of editing meant ONE company supplied you with a complete solution but these days you are relying on a number of companies and they don’t always talk to one another.
Bottom line, if you got a working system then use that unless there is some pressing need to change. FCP 7 was quite reliable and Premiere in software only mode for mercury playback is supposedly rock solid. The issue seems to be the handshake to the cards and once that is corrupted it buggers the whole system. I am guessing some sort of memory issue that pushes the card to the limit in premiere and then once it is confused it carries onto the glichiness in the day to day system.M Belanger
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Yeah no issues playing stuff back for me…. a bit stuttery at times but it is only a quadro 4000. So do you have the GTX 680 with 2 gig vram or supposedly there is a 4 gig vram…
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OK David so you are not working on CC 2014. I did the same as you and took a fresh drive and installed Yosemite and all the Adobe Cloud stuff mostly because Adobe basically send out an email indicating they are pretty much only supporting the new OS version … I think from 10.9 up… cannot recall exactly. Plus FCP X needs the newer OS and I don’t think you can find Mavericks if you are on 10.8… so you pretty much have to upgrade to Yosemite.
In all honesty I did find the software pretty buggy and had it give me a “SERIOUS ERROR” message many many times. Now when I launch my PRPro app and start a new project my options include Cuda and CL as options and generally that has worked relatively well but I do get some steppiness on busier sections. I am using an Nvidia QUADRO 4000… not sure how that compares to your GTX 680…likely the GTX has more “cuda cores” dunnoI might add that there is a real bug that I discovered… perhaps others do know about this….I found that if I faded on a graphic … a jpg still for example let’s say a picture of some sort….. if you fade that on and use an opacity setting of lower than 100 .. a half mix or superimpose if you will…. I found that when you rendered that out you got a noticeable blip in video level for that still… It would not fade up smoothly but hiccup at the top of the fade. My work around was to do a manual fade up using opacity keyframes… This only was an issue if the still was not full opacity. But this is a real pain. Not sure if this is related to the video card during play out or render out or just a software bug but it is entirely reproducible for sure.
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Well no luck yet… I am running the exact same version of FCP on my laptop and it does not crash when I open L and T… Now it has much less stuff on it than my Mac Pro…I have cards and of course drivers for those cards so maybe something is wiggy… The only thing that is different btwn the laptop and the MP is the OS is a bit newer running 10.6.8 vs 10.6.5….
Is there a fast way of removing the plug ins for FCP without causing damage…??? Certainly don’t want to have to reload them all that’s for sure…
I’ll see if my Black Magic drivers are up to date
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No clean install… way too many plug ins to re install . From what I can see.. others have done the clean install and still had crashes BUT I will do permissions again to see what happens.. Can’t hurt that is for sure.
mike b
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Hey thanks Shane…yes have done the trash pref thing long time ago… never did much. Keep in mind once I upped to 7 it automatically trashed prefs. As for format… never even get to that point as I simply click L&T and before I can even point to the file it crashes all of FCP.. Did it in 6 and now 7 so I am not sure what it is. maybe a plug in that it simply does not like??
mike b