[Mark Frazier]

Any way to find out what system NASCAR pit crews use? They’re bulky, but they work in what I would consider a rather noisy environment.

[Mark Frazier]

No, you don’t seem dense, but I may seem that way by the time this is all done…..

In my last post, I think I had finally visualized what you were trying to create. My apologies for not seeing it sooner. When I saw that you had a page-centered “header”, as well as the two columns of credits, I went about creating the roll a different way. You should be able to do the entire roll in a single layer, it was just a bit more difficult to get the columns and header positioned where I thought they should be.

For this example, ignore the earlier posts about making two separate text containers, matching keyframes, etc.

The whole text page should be center-justified (this will center the header between the columns.) For the two columns of credits, you will need to use the tab function to justify and position the text. Set a right-justify tab to the left of center, and a left-justify tab to the right of center. For each new line of text, hit the tab key BEFORE you type the left column; when you finish typing the info for that column, hit tab to take you to the right column. Do this for each line of text, and they should line up the same way you lined up the title containers from before.

For the next header, don’t use the tab key at all and it should center-justify the header info.

The problem I ran into was that if the names in the right column were too long, it throws off the column spacing in relationship to the centered header, so you’ll need to enter all of the info for the complete roll, then move the tab markers to center everything back up.

Once you get all of this built, you only have one big long “page” of text to roll, so there won’t be any need to make separate title layers and containers, match in and out settings, etc.

I hope I finally made sense out of this, and I apologize again for describing two different ways to do this and confusing the matter more than I should have. Best of luck on this round.

Mark

[Mark Frazier]

Hmmmmm…….

We are definitely coming at this from totally different directions.

I would almost go back to when you are typing and importing the credits. Instead of using spaces to separate the columns, is there any way to use “tab” settings? For instance, set a right-justify tab for the left column, then a left-justify for the right, then just center the “CAST” and “CREW” headers? Of course, it would have to import into A/E or Boris properly and from your first post, it sounds like this has been an issue.

Can you create the text within the Boris application? Boris Red has tab functions in the Text window (you have to double-click them to change their justification), but I don’t know if they would import tab settings from another application or not. If you can get this method to work, it may be possible to do the whole roll as one chunk of text, instead of trying to piece it together a column at a time.

This is all I can think of right now. Good luck, and let me know if it works.

[Mark Frazier]

David,

It sounds as if we may have been approaching this credit roll from two different directions. I don’t know if it would make any difference, but I’m using Red 3.0, and it sounds like you may be using Graffiti or FX. I don’t see anything called “Boris Title Crawl” in my settings.

When I do a roll, I type up my info in a layer of text, (the manual mentions that I can import it from a word processing program, but I’ve never done that) then under the “Track” pulldown, select “New Title Container”. It will automatically put the text layer in that container.

In the Control window for the title container, there is an Animation tab with an “Animation Style” selection window, where I choose the “Roll” option. Under the Position tab for the container is where I change the X-axis settings (but I suppose you can use the positon tab for the text layer instead.)

You have to put each text layer into it’s own container (with each container having the same beginning and ending settings) if you want them to roll side-by-side, otherwise the container will “stack” the text layers one after another. The defaults of the container roll will begin and end the text roll completely off the screen.

If you want to adjust where the text will be at any given point in the roll, click on the beginning or ending keyframe of the container, then set your CTI wherever you want to check in the timeline, and change the Y-axis setting according to where you need to move the text.

If you have the center column come in after the left and right columns have rolled off the screen, you will need to adjust the ending of the left and right containers to get them off the screen sooner, and adjust the beginning (and possibly the ending) keyframes of the center container so it will “follow” the other two up and off the screen.

And once you get everything timed out, the Animation tab of the container also contains settings for masking and blending the top and bottom of your roll, so they can appear and disappear anywhere on the screen, if you llike that kind of thing.

I hope this helps more than it confuses.

Mark

[Mark Frazier]

I set up a 3-column roll (each column in it’s own container) so they all three rolled together to the end. With a slight adjustment, I got them to line up (although theoretically the adjustment shouln’t have to have been made. But you know how them reotheticals are.)

Is it possible that your right column did not have the exact same number of text lines in it? (If you have one more line of text in the left column, you’ll need to add an extra “return” at the bottom of the right column to make the lines all match up, etc.)

Also, check to make sure the values of the ending keyframes of each title layer and container layer all match. Somehow, one of my containers “adjusted” the settings slightly on the ending keyfames of both the title and container layers, which threw off the alignment just enough to be slightly noticable at the end of the roll. When I matched the keyframe settings to that of the other containers, the roll matched perfectly. Same goes for the beginning keyframes, but I’ve never had issues with their values drifting.

Hope this helps. Let me know either way.

[Mark Frazier]

Charlie,

Anyone with a good memory (or an appreciation for the “TV Land” channel) will get it.

I’m nominating you for the “Obscure Reference Du Jour” award. Keep up the good work!

Mark

[Mark Frazier]

Felix,

Thanks for sharing what finally made it work. Some day I’ll have HD and won’t have to fight this same battle!

Mark

[Mark Frazier]

If you’re implying that the sun is just barely coming over the horizon, I would lean towards the “warm” colors coming through the window. If the sun is over the horizon much, stick with Thomas’ suggestion of the “colder” light. Adjust the direction of light coming through the “window” accordingly.

Use just enough ambient room light (very soft) to show any details (alarm clock, shadow side of face, etc.)

This ought to put you up to about six cents.

[Mark Frazier]

[Tom Meegan] “Never key in on a walkie talkie radio near a recording beta sp deck.”

A Betacam next to two top fuel dragsters at launch gives a nice 20-frame acid trip as well.

[Mark Frazier]

Felix,

I have not been able to duplicate your problem (good for me, not so good for you), but I typically get into Boris directly from M100i, either as a transition or from a graphics layer. I’ll expose my ignorance of HD here, but is RED your graphics plug-in for M100HD? If so, can you open your RED project settings from a M100 graphics track to see if it will communicate better?

This may also be something to post over in the BorisFX forum to see if better minds than mine (not tough to find) can give you more advice.

Good luck!

Mark