Luis Caffesse
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[Brian SaenzDeViteri] “I’ve read that most of us cannot expect to see larger format capacity optical disc drives (ie Blu-Ray or HD-DVD) until 2007.”
I was under the impression it would be much sooner than that.
Although personally, considering the amount of coasters I’ve burned in my day, I don’t really feel comfortable backing my data up to any DVD type media.“What other options are there to save these files from the P2 for archival purposes?”
I personally still feel that backing up the data to external hard drives will probably wind up being the cheapest and most reliable way for the moment. I’m going under the assumption the we’re talking about backing up HD footage here.
A 63 minute DVCProHD tape costs $80 right now (and I doubt that price is going to drop much anytime soon).
63 minutes of DVCProHD at the full 100mb/s equals roughly 47 GB
You can get an external 60GB hard drive for $68 (I just looked one up on pricewatch.com).
So, gig for gig, when it comes to HD footage, hard drives will actually wind up being cheaper than HD tape, and they will only continue to get cheaper (whereas the cost of HD tape will probably stay where it is).
That’s my take on it anyhow.
Luis Caffesse
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[Mike Curtis] “The 1080 res will be 1280×1080 pixels to tape. The 720 formats will be 960×720 to tape. These are the resolutions recorded to tape”
Not to be nit picky here Mike, but that won’t be going to tape at all.
Tape is dead, remember?
🙂Luis Caffesse
Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
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[Mike Curtis] “They’ll spill details at NAB, but when will it ship? Probably not right away…”
Hey Mike, glad to see you chiming in here.
For those of you who haven’t already done it, bookmark his site, it’s a great resource.As far as when it will ship…
Well, we know the 8GB P2 cards aren’t slated to be out until August.
And we know the 60GB card reader won’t be out until September.It’s probably safe to assume that the camera won’t be out until after both of those things are released…. so….
You’re guess is as good as mine, for the next week that is.
After that we’ll know everything there is to know.Luis Caffesse
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[Brian SaenzDeViteri] “I can honestly say, I have never been more anxious for an NAB product announcement before.”
Regardless of all the speculation and debate that’s going on…that’s one statement I’m pretty sure we can all agree with.
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[Barry Green] “Panasonic has been very tight-lipped about what the camera cannot do, all we know is a few things that it CAN do. But it would be way premature to say that it can’t do anything that isn’t on the “can” do list, as they have to keep a few surprises in store for NAB’s announcement.”
Great point Barry!
And also, good fodder for more speculation.
🙂They’ve given up so much already, I know most people were bowled over by the news of 1080/24P. Makes you wonder what they might save for NAB.
Luis Caffesse
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[Vincent Rice] “The page has been ‘404’ed now which may or may not add to its veracity.”
Actually, the page is still there, just the link was posted in correctly in my post.
Cut and paste the entire address into your browser, is should come up.
Luis Caffesse
Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
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[PappasArts] ”
The conversion of the Euro dollars to US
3,000.00 EUR = 3,886.70 USD-United States Dollars “Michael, actually the site listed 3,000 English Pounds as the price (i thought).
The would put it in the ballpark of $5,500 UDS.
Sounds a bit more realistic to me.Luis Caffesse
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[Paul] “I keep readin that this will record onto minDV and have ONE P2 slot…..why would you record to minDV??? Is that even possible??? “
Well, I suppose we won’t know for certain until a week from now, but my 2 cents says it won’t have a tape drive.
A miniDV tape drive wouldn’t do much good.
You would not be able to record DVCProHD onto tape, as the tape can’t be spun fast enough. I suppose Panasonic could release a new ‘small shell’ HD tape to be used with the camera, but I seriously doubt that will happen.Jan has mentioned before that the DVCProHD tape transport requires 16 record heads working in pairs. At $800 a pair, that’s $6400 just for an HD tape transport.
So, if it does include tape…is would be only for SD work, and more than likely only for DV (or DVCPro).
So I suppose it is possible.
But is it useful? Not to me.Is it likely? I don’t think so.
But we’ll see in a week.
Luis Caffesse
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[Graeme Nattress] “Does not automatic duck translate dissolves across from FCP to AE?”
It sure does.
So, in the end, if you plan your workflow carefully there is no reason why you should have to render
out your footage more than once.Edit in FCP, use Automatic Duck to import the timeline to AE, finish in AE (color correction, titles),
and only then render out to whatever you need.Luis Caffesse
Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
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[Jason J Rodriguez] “But the point is, if you choose the DVCProHD software decoder from the start, that’s the problem. IMHO, the HD-SDI hardware decoder in the Pansonic decks makes a “cleaner” (not necessarily more accurate to the actual information on the tape) image than what I get off firewire.
However, when it comes to P2, we are not capturing at all, we are bringing the clips in directly from our P2 cards.
By doing that, are we using the same software decoder that you are saying is the problem, or are we side stepping the entire issue?If you export DVCProHD to After Effects, render to a new “uncompressed” codec, and import back into Final Cut, and then want to go back to tape, you’re either going to have to render back to the DVCProHD codec (another generation loss), or you’re going to have to render out your whole timeline to some other codec (which can take some time). “
If we are bringing clips in directly from P2 cards, and we edit in FCP, pull the timeline into AE using automatic duck, and render out from there then that is only 1 generation loss. Why not render out of AE with the DVCProHD codec to lay back to tape? Or render out of AE with whatever codec you want to lay back to tape for that matter?
Rendering out of AE is the only time in this workflow that I can see that the footage is being recompressed.
If the point of using the CFHD codec as an intermediate codec is because it holds up better to multiple compressions, then I don’t think it’s really necessary if you have a proper workflow using direct to disk or solid state recording. Ideally your footage should only need to be recompressed once.This may be a good idea for tape originated material, but I still fail to see the advantage when shooting DTD or solid state.
Luis Caffesse
Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
Austin, Texas