[Larry Sherwood]

I’m not trying to be beligerent or make excuses BUT since all you do is right click on the clip in the timeline and choose “Find in Project”, I don’t find this to be THAT big of a deal.

My 2 cents
LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

Is Matrox Axio SD a possibility for you, UNBELIEVEABLE amount of real time with SD & HD footage, you can edit both SD & HD material on an SD system.

http://www.matrox.com for more info

Just a suggestion, I use it myself with PPro

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

P.S.

I use to sit with the keyboard in my lap, sometimes with my feet up on the console, and edit hours and hours of footage, and actually having fun doing it. . .ahhhh the good old days, if ONLY ADOBE WOULD HEAR ME !!!!!! There just a few keysrokes away from doing this, maybe 2.5 🙂

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

TYPICAL DISCREET EDIT* WORKFLOW

This type of keyboard based workflow allows the user to develop great speed and accuracy as well as being able to perform all necessary editing functions working within the smaller workarea of the keyboard. It is a wrokflow that must be experienced by an editor to really appreciate.
I will try and give you a “typical” workflow to try and follow this workflow on the keyboard only.

press a key to put focus on the timeline

press a key to activate each track you will edit on

press a key that puts the focus on your current bin, another keystroke would let you cycle thru your bins until the right one is selected.

The Arrow keys now allow you to search thru clips in the bin, with keystrokes allowing you to view each clip when selected. viewing means wathing the clip play, jog, or scrub, with the ability to create an In or out point, or mark an In point with the I key, press the D key and enter a duration, press enter and the clip has both in/out marked. Or enter an Out point, press D and type a negative duration, press enter and you have back timed your clip.

You find the right shot and now, while still in the bin, viewing the clips playback on both desktop and broadcast monitors, you navigate footage by playing, jogging, or scrubbing, and mark your in/out points.

another single keystroke edits that clip to the timeline.

B key takes you back to bin, arrow keys again allow you to continue finding clips in that bin or a single keystroke allows you to cycle thru each bin to find the next shot.

you find the next shot, mark your in/our points, and create another edit to the timeline

continue as needed until you are ready to trim some of these shots.

single keystroke puts focus back on timeline

the Home key puts the timeline cursor at the beginning of the timeline

Space bar plays, you watch the first edit go by

Space bar stops playback

You type T to trim the tail of the last edit or H to trim the head of the last edit, and then type in a + or – duration, press enter, the timeline cursor automatically backs up 2 seconds (user defineable) before the last edit and plays back. You repeat this process as you play thru the timeline, trimming where needed.

This represents a typical but powerful workflow that can be used to create your basic timelines in the fastest time, with a tremendous Economy of Motion value for the editor. All of this possible without ever leaving the keyboard. . .

My 2 Cents

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

This type of keyboard based workflow allows the user to develop great speed and accuracy as well as being able to perform all necessary editing functions working within the smaller workarea of the keyboard. It is a wrokflow that must be experienced by an editor to really appreciate.
I will try and give you a “typical” workflow to try and follow this workflow on the keyboard only.

press a key to put focus on the timeline

press a key to activate each track you will edit on

press a key that puts the focus on your current bin, another keystroke would let you cycle thru your bins until the right one is selected.

The Arrow keys now allow you to search thru clips in the bin, with keystrokes allowing you to view each clip when selected. viewing means wathing the clip play, jog, or scrub, with the ability to create an In or out point, or mark an In point with the I key, press the D key and enter a duration, press enter and the clip has both in/out marked. Or enter an Out point, press D and type a negative duration, press enter and you have back timed your clip.

You find the right shot and now, while still in the bin, viewing the clips playback on both desktop and broadcast monitors, you navigate footage by playing, jogging, or scrubbing, and mark your in/out points.

another single keystroke edits that clip to the timeline.

B key takes you back to bin, arrow keys again allow you to continue finding clips in that bin or a single keystroke allows you to cycle thru each bin to find the next shot.

you find the next shot, mark your in/our points, and create another edit to the timeline

continue as needed until you are ready to trim some of these shots.

single keystroke puts focus back on timeline

the Home key puts the timeline cursor at the beginning of the timeline

Space bar plays, you watch the first edit go by

Space bar stops playback

You type T to trim the tail of the last edit or H to trim the head of the last edit, and then type in a + or – duration, press enter, the timeline cursor automatically backs up 2 seconds (user defineable) before the last edit and plays back. You repeat this process as you play thru the timeline, trimming where needed.
This represents a typical but powerful workflow that can be used to create your basic timelines in the fastest time, with a tremendous Economy of Motion value for the editor. All of this possible without ever leaving the keyboard. . .

My 2 Cents

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

I did Tim, thank you. I also did respond, actually to both of your emails. Thanks for the download and be sure I’ll spread the link, thanks again.
I’ll have to try and get some technical info for you on this board set. I only know about what I was able to do on this system with the hardware I mentioned. This BTW, does NOT mean that I think that each time processors double in capability, Axio will also double in real time, there are other bottlenecks to consider, obviously. But I do believe that as long as another bottleneck is not reached, Axio has the ability to deliver more capabilities.

My 2 cents
LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

Greetings Paolo and Tim.

Paolo – see my response to you on the Matrox forum, and be patient with this software, I have reaped great rewards in being open to learning how PPro works, no, it’s not Edit, nothing else out there is Edit.
I’m trying to work with Adobe to help impliment the few keystroke capabilities that would really make PPro fly, I’ve done it before and I’m trying to do it again.

Tim – Axio’s capabilities are greatly accelerated by more powerful CPU’s. I did the Axio demos at NAB and IBC. At NAB I used an HP 9300 with dual opterons and was able to demonstrate 2 layers of uncompressed HD video, with effects, and 2 layers of keyed gfx, with effects, any more layers than that and I had the Red Bar. At IBC, using the same Axio boards as we did at NAB, I was able to increase my layers on that demo timeline to 4 layers of uncompressed HD video and 4 layers of keyed graphics. Other than a new version of Axio software, the only difference was using an HP 9300 with dual core processors replacing the dual opteron processors.
That seems pretty scaleable to me, don’t ya’ think?

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

Hello Editors*
Mark, I am sitting in a hotel room in Toronto, editing a wedding for a friend on my laptop, with PPro 1.5.1, using a LaCie 250GB firewire drive with all my footage on it. It works really well for me as all the footage is DV25. What type of editing and effects do you need to be able to do that would prevent you from attempting what I’m doing?

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

I just did the demos of Matrox Axio at IBC using Dual Core AMD’s and PPro 1.5.1

With Axio’s Scaleable performance, I was able to show twice as many streams in Real Time ( 4 video & 4 graphics in HD, 6 or 7 video & 6 or 8 graphics in SD) PLUS I had greatly accelerated rtendering times on my exports and renders.

FYI . . .

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com

[Larry Sherwood]

Well, a non-proprietary system is always the most future-proof in my mind. A general-use DeckLink card isn’t only cheaper, but also is very versatile.
Axio has what is called “Scaleable Performance”. At NAB I was able to demo 2 streams of Uncompressed HD Video with 2 streams of Graphics, all with effects on them.
At IBC, I was able to demo 4 streams of Uncompressed HD video with 4 streams of graphics, with effects. At NAB we used Dual Xeon HP 9300’s At IBC we used Dual Core HP 9300’s. S oas the CPU’s become more powerful, Axio will automatically give you more power and performance. A VERY valuable asset of hardware making it “Future Friendly”

The Axio would give someone who was doing a lot of editing some serious speed advantages, but the file format is proprietary…moving the media files to another computer entails conversion.
Not sure what you mean by this, I use my Axio files in AE all the time and there is no file conversion. AFAIK, using the Matrox codecs to render in AE will have accelerating rendering via the Axio hardware.

If you do go with the Decklink card, you can invest more into the computer itself…processors, serious video card, etc….which affects your After Effects work, which would be useful 90% of the time according to your post…the Axio accelerates the 10%.
As I said above, the more you spend on your computer power, the more you will get with Axio.

I don’t have much to say on pricing…it’s all over the place depending on where you buy, etc., but it seems to me from what you’re saying that the Decklink/general purpose configuration would be best for you.

…my opinion.

I think you get what you pay for, if he chose to work on an RT 100 system he obviously found some advantage in having hardware acceleration on his system. Axio also now has an attractive offer with HD editing capabilities on the SD system.
…also just my opinion.

LS

Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
larry@sherwoodpost.com