[Kim Rowley]

Hi Rafael,
Do you really think there is a perceivable difference setting the sequence to 10 bit uncompressed? I was under the impression (also through surphing past Cow posts on the subject that the perceivable difference between 8 bit and 10 bit is nil to the naked eye unless the program has a lot of graphics. The difference in file sizes are considerable and in the past year I have opted for 8 bit uncompressed when working with DigiBeta, bringing material in and out through the SDI I/O of the Aja I/O.
Any thoughts?

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[Kim Rowley]

Thanks Rainer for the quick response. I’ll stick with the DVCPRO50 codec as you suggest. The only other difference I notice from the DigiBeta settings is the field dominance is set to “lower”. I am in PAL land and the setting was “upper” with the Digibeta material.
I am so impressed with my first pictures in this new (to me) format. For a fraction of the price I have hardly compromised anything in quality. I shot on the new HPX 171
Cheers

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[Kim Rowley]

I have to deal with this situation frequently. What I typically have done is have the original language interview transcribed verbatim – with repititions and “uhms and ahs” and a rough traslation done in a column directly opposite. I generally find that together with this as well as the foreighn language intonation I can do a rough cut without having someone sitting next to me the whole time. Once that is done I call someone that speaks the language (preferably mother tongue) and see if my cuts flow and make sense. This is especially tricky if you need to cut into sentences to tighten things up or get rid of repitions etc. Since these people are not usually editors, I generally have them listen to the interview or sound bite without looking at the images so as to not be distracted either by the pictures or uncovered jump cuts.
Hope this helps.

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[Kim Rowley]

Hi Jan,
I wrote to the email address you gave twice and both times it came back to me (after a full 24 hours) with a permanent failure message. I triple checked I wrote it correctly substituting “at” with @… Any second guess? I also “extended a friendship” the other day through the Cow… Could it be because I’m outside the USA? An IT mystery! Any ideas?
Thanks,
Kim

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[Kim Rowley]

Thank you Jan. What great resources on that link in addition to what I was looking for. I couldn’t find a link to that software on the panasonic-broadcast page… . Thanks again. Wish us luck on the P2 plunge.

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[Kim Rowley]

Thanks to all. You hit the nail on the head Dan. I found that doing the tests as I did, things got messy fast as far as project organization is concerned. I am using a 32GB card and realize I’m trying to use it as you would a tape… I’m discovering that I have to rethink the whole process. It’s alot to think about! You know something about that already since I’ve written you at Imagine.

Thanks for the links Noah. I’ve heard people talk about Barry Green’s HVX book and also the Boot Camp that you mention. Do you have an opinion on which one is better or more recent? (I ask since they’re not cheap…) Thanks again.

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[Kim Rowley]

Check out this Stephen Smith tutorial right here in the Cow Library. It is nothing short of GREAT.

https://library.creativecow.net/articles/smith_stephen/custom_motion_templ.php

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[Kim Rowley]

I second the motion! Or archiving in general…
Cheers!

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[Kim Rowley]

As always, thanks David and John. I m going to start voicing all of these ideas this week within our organization. It’s incredible David how our workflows are so similar. We, for the same reason as you, don’t tie up our edit bays with the encoding and authoring process.

We archive all Digital Beta Masters (which is usually) the same copy as the one used for encoding. We also archive EDL’s and on particularly complex projects we’ll save the different audio channels before mixdown to CD’s. Sometimes too we’ll output a Digital Beta master with audio tracks kept separately.

We also shotlist and archive all raw footage. The shotlist is done with Imagine Product’s WinTEP. Then that data is dumped into Access for now where we have a makeshift database which allows for very basic searches (date, place, names ecc) all dependent on how specific the shotlist was done. We are a small shop of dedicated people but the archiving side of things is a mammoth task. We are currently researching archive solutions to put everything on server. Just that research in and of itself is time consuming. I’d love to hear how you are going about this if you get time…

So up til now the Kona solution seems like the best option. I’d have to see then though the best way of archiving the HD Master without buying a HD CAM recorder. I don’t know anything about that end of things yet. That is (now that the SD DigiBeta master is taken care of) once I’ve finished my edit what is the best way to output and archive the tapeless HD master?

Have a great week!

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[Kim Rowley]

Thanks to all three. Hearing the different options backed up by your personal experience is valuable and gives great food for thought. If we did decide to upgrade all 4 edit stations to Master in HD, what is the best way of finishing to DVD. At present we are doing the encode via hardware in a separate workstation straight from the Digital Beta Master. The authoring is done then with DVD studio Pro. In other words once the final edit is laid back to tape, the job is off to other departments – quality contro included.

What are you all seeing that “works”. Since we have worldwide distribution (to many third world countries as well) the DVD still needs to be distributed in SD.

Then there is the whole archiving issue that would need addressing (as you so knowingly agree David) but one issue at a time!

Thanks all.

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