Kim Krause
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i would love to know how many nodes you can use on a 4k job with a standard mac set up. what frame rate can be achieved for playback? i’ve seen some systems that can barely cope with 4 nodes when using 1080 p. i’m not saying it can’t be done but the whole idea of having a super duper high end system is to get real time performance with unlimited nodes….
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i was talking about digital intermediate work. 2k and 4 k. 1080p is practically offline for most high end jobs nowadays. you may as well use pro res in Color then!
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i didnt mention lustre or scratch for that matter as they are not as popular in some areas. and yes davinci is used on big budget films but it is the full blown everything included full on plus 3D versions and not the cheap resolve on a mac. i wouldn’t even try to grade 4 k files or even native red on a single mac with resolve. having a more inexpensive (free) version of davinci doesn’t mean it will compete with the big guns. unfortunately too many people think that just because they now have davinci they are “pros” that is not true and for one would never imply that. talent and a big paycheck is what separates the pros from the hobbyists. i came from the pro (commercial) background and made the decision to strike out on my own and play in the less stressful indie and documentary field. because of budgets and a less hectic work load, i was able to outfit myself with the tools needed to still provide a professional product at a very affordable price. i chose color as my weapon of choice merely because of ease of use and compatibility with clients who were using final cut. it was a great workflow and i don’t regret a single minute of the decision. however as you can see times have changed and the goal posts have been moved once again so it is time to look at other options. if i can no longer make a living in this market because of everyone undercutting each other on price then maybe i will even have to look elsewhere for work. thats the reality that we all as colorists have to face. i consider myself fortunate enough to have survived the last five years providing an excellent service to clients who can appreciate what i do for them. and as usual it’s the talent and not the toys that shine through.
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don’t forget color was also free (with FCP) and a lot of us built up a business around it. in fact it’s still great application for many projects. free resolve is no different…..the real change is now that more and more people are jumping onto the grading bandwagon. when color was released, not many people embraced it at first and it was never considered a “pro” application in some circles. then again neither was final cut when it first came out…but 5 years later and the world changed. all of a sudden everyone who had final cut was an editor. i used this to my advantage when i set out on my own and based my entire workflow on FCP and Color compatibility/round tripping. i don’t think any of us could have predicted how soon that would all change. i figured i would have to cross grade to resolve at some point as color was being dropped.
i was just about to order the full version and start adapting it to my workflow next year. thank you black magic for saving me that expense. so now i have to compete with the same people i used to compete with as they also jump onto the davinci wagon. just because the software is free, i don’t see a big loss for myself. after all you still need all the other equipment to put together a suite. if you already have the hardware it’s a no brainer as far as reasons to step up to davinci. just keep in mind that the new young talent is now on the same playing field and the days of big expensive post house grading suites is quickly coming to an end. the really high end jobs will still be catered for by the base lights and nucodas of the world but for 90% of your average television work, the field is wide open. -
hahaha..yeah i know, but i think you get the point..i should have said “all those pc avid users” and maybe included premiere pro guys as well. but then they will probably have their own free grading solution when speed grade is rolled into creative suite. once anything hits the windows platform, it will be distributed like wild fire. our only hope is to start working on more 4 k jobs and charging even more money…let the hd stuff go to the amateurs. who am i kidding, we’re all doomed thanks to you tube anyway!
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just imagine all the free resolve users there will be if they make it on windows. every avid editor will now think they are a colorist as well . oh wait they already do! even less pie for the rest of us….
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are you crazy? who has that kind of cash to throw around? if you want to spend more money go and buy a base light or nu coda. if you wanted a cheaper solution i would go with the free version and buy my own panels…would be even less than 10k…maybe we can get the software for free when we buy a tangent eclipse or something. yes this whole free thing has really kicked up the game a notch but in the end its talent that wins out. sure we are all gonna lose out to the cheaper guys but thats just life. same thing happened in the audio industry but we still have big expensive recording studios. and some people still feel the need to use a post house for editing when others prefer to do it on their own with a laptop in the lounge. the genie is out of the bottle and now we gotta figure out how to deal with it!
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you are really making it harder and harder for me to stick with color aren’t you. hahaha
if only i could deal with the confusion of the legalizer and the gamut errors that slip by on output. and that curves window is fantastic, it would be really useful if it was twice as large for us mouse users. its good to see you incorporating so many of colors ease of use features. and now all the nodes….sheesh next thing you know all the sapphire plug ins are gonna be integrated and then i’ll really have to make the switch! -
i agree with you. most colorist disagree with the video on a computer monitor and a grading monitor at the same time. sometimes clients want to know why it looks different on the one or will prefer one over the other and you gotta get into a whole debate. i on the other hand wish i did have video on a smaller screen just for my own use. it would be handy for drawing mattes and masks and as you say fill up that empty space where the scopes sit. in color you can see the scopes and the video on one monitor and it is quick way to work plus it looks cool. i wish resolve would go even further and allow you to customize the workspace like you could with the old davinci 888’s. that way you can set it up how you like rather than being stuck with what they have decided/ for example i would have the secondaries popup in a new window and also increase the size of the curves window. makes working with a mouse easier. while i’m at my other beef is why can’t the grading on/off just be one button that you can toggle. why would you want individual buttons for on and off? with every update i see resolve becoming more color like and i am happy to say that this is a good thing in my opinion.
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you are of course assuming they have money and are impressed by stuff like that. in south africa the average rate for grading is about 1/4 of in america so most client either don’t bother grading or just try and squeeze you to do the job for next to nothing. i found a work around. they give me the drive then bugger off after we chat about what they need done and how much time they can afford. i do the job on my own according to my schedule of prioriities (real jobs with money get first place) and we all win. they get the job done for the amount they can afford. i get tons of work and don’t have to entertain clients so my expenses are further reduced. no fancy edit suite with internet and cappuccino. just good old fashioned honest grading.