[Kent Kumpula]

Thanks guys, logs and system profiles are sent to Davincihelp.

[Kent Kumpula]

Hackintosh? If not… where do you find card slots for storage and reference monitor?

[Kent Kumpula]

Thanks guys, the macpro is from this year, so yep, it is compatible. And I tried with another GTX 285, and it works just fine. These are PC-flashed cards purchased from Ebay, sadly I had bad luck and got bad-flashed cards or something.

I have contacted the seller, haven´t received any reply yet but he is big and seems honest so it will be interesting to see how we solve this.

[Kent Kumpula]

[Robert Houllahan] “As with many many things which have been “changed” by the computer revolution in the end it is still going to be the skill and eye of the operator.”

That is so true. As are all the other things you wrote in the last reply.

I still believe thigs will go more towards massproduction and lower cost per editing/colorcorrection seat, and in the end that means lower hourly rates for the colorist… true. But if the investment is also dropped to a very low pricetag compared to just a few years ago. Does it matter?

Well, of course it does. And to survive we need to adapt. And one way of adapting is not to throw out big dollars on a dedicated panel if you can get the same functionality (well, basically the same) for 1/10 of the price for the boasting-panel.

That is the way I see things anyway. And if Resolve won´t support the Tangent panels I will eagerly wait to see what Iridas has to offer, and perhaps make the move to Iridas if they can offer a good workflow and Element support. Guess how useful a big Resolve panel will be by then…

And then another big question pops up. How big is the demand for used dedicated Resolve panels? I´m guessing a panel that is supported by several different softwares has a better reselling value.

[Kent Kumpula]

[Robert Houllahan] “So the $30K is short money for the Panels from BMD and I really do not see any way they could even make them for $5-6K considering the build quality and volume of sales. “

Yeah, but if they dropped the price a lot and made them more compatible (so one could use the panel even if porting to some other color correction software in the future), the build and sale volume would skyrocket compared to what they sell now. At least that would be my guess.

Thinking “Big boasting dedicated panels” is so yesterdays technology. Color, Davinci Resolve, and now probably Iridas in a near future… this is the way things are moving. Away from skyhigh premiumpriced… towards massproduction and “make many small dollars instead of a few big”. This is the way I see panels going too, with the Element being the first of its kind (well, the first really good looking high quality versatile panel that is pretty cheap compared to other similar panels).

As far as clients go, the good looks of the element panels should be enough to make them feel good about paying for the service. I mean they don´t look all plastic and cheap (if someone has a issue with plastic).

IMHO, anyway.

[Kent Kumpula]

[Joseph Owens] “[Kent Kumpula] “I would pay a maximum of something like $3000 for the panel.”

This is completely unrealistic. I doubt they could even be manufactured at this price point.”

Perhaps it is, and in that case they need to go with the flow and lower the manufacturing cost or raise the “useability” or thee panels they want to sell. Like let say… making them compatible with other softwares byt, for example, making a software for mapping all the buttons to different functions.

If we compare the Resolve panels to the Tangent Devices Element found here: https://blogs.creativecow.net/blog/5810/introducing-tangent-designs-element-control-surface and then we compare the price: $3000-$3500 for the Element panel versus Resolve panel for €30000… the difference is huge.

If you need more buttons or knobs, add another button or knob panel and map the functions you need (at least in my dreams, I´m not sure how “mappeable” all the buttons are). For me, the four panel set is probably more than I need.

Will you be $26500 more productive with the Resolve panel? If you can, and if you can earn the pricedifference before the Resolve panel/software is outdated, good for you! I sure can´t make the calculations for the Resolvepanel to be a winner, I just can´t.

Add to that calculation that I would need three panels at least, and the price for the Resolve panels gets ridiculous in comparison to the price for the Element panels. And not being able to use the panels for anything else (like a future Adobe/Iridas update?) makes the Resolve panels much less compatible and useable.

[Kent Kumpula]

I would pay a maximum of something like $3000 for the panel. And that would be after we see what Adobe has up the sleeve for their purchase of Iridas, and if they make something useful with the element panels in combination with Iridas-stuff.

The sad thing about the Davinci panels is that they are tied to ONE software, which in my opinion is totally idiotic. If they´d change the panels to use some common computer language, so they could be used for other softwares too, then they would be a much “safer buy”.

2 years from now, who knows what software we are using for colorcorrection. It makes no sense today to sell/buy this expensive customized panels that only work with one software. Look at the Element panels, they are the future. Customizeable and available for different softwares.

[Kent Kumpula]

What I would really like to know is if there are any plans for Resolve supporting these panels?

My guess is sadly… no. Who would buy the ultra-expensive Resolve-panel if Resolve would support the Element panel? The price difference is huge.

But with Adobe purchasing Iridas, things might get plenty interesting. Resolve might just have to support this panel in order to keep their clients. If Adobe comes up with a good alternative for color correction and adds full support for the Element panel…

[Kent Kumpula]

It doesen´t matter how many PCI slots you have, if the computer is acting like a PC (this is what I call it when a PC is … well being a PC. Not working properly and having unlogical problems and crashes).

A few hours of struggling trying to make it work quickly eats up the money that is “saved” when buying a PC.

[Kent Kumpula]

I´m also eager to hear… please please please let there be a “Include embedded audio in exported ProRes files”-thingymagig and a “Adobe XML-support” in the list…