Jules Bowman
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Steve, I’m sure you can do almost anything in FC10 eventually, it’s just as I said before, you need to be a contortionist to do it.
Their biggest cock up was the trackless thing. Clip collision, as described above, is something that makes sense and something I tout of when the whole thing was released, but instead they took a good idea and made it into something that isn’t usable for many many editors, or something that many many editors don’t want to use because of its limitations and the need for workarounds. The fact there are all these discussions about primary this, secondary that, connected the other when none of these issues ev existed for the…. Woah, magnetic timeline…. Makes a pretty good case for it being folly.
I bet you there could have been tracks and clip collision that made things move around like a magnetic timeline (though do magnets move like that?) so you’d have had a useful tool for the very few times you did have that clip collision issue, you’d be able to lob clips at the timeline and other clips would make way for them, which would be great, but you’d have tracks and all the advantages that come with them.
And no one will convince me that they couldn’t have done that. They just didn’t want to. They wanted to do it this way because for randy’s home movies, that’s all that was needed.
As I said before. Trackless was folly. Seriously, you give me tracks and stop calling projects, etc by silly names and I am giving it more of a consideration than I am now. Though the bugs and bloat and all that other crap people go on about is still off putting, but I would have at least been trying it.
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But the forum is called FCPX or Not: The Debate
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Tracks. And grown up naming conventions 🙂
And adobe have my money. They also talk to me, gave me a hug, wiped the sweat off my brow and have already reduced my heart rate.
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Just read this thread Steve. It wasn’t designed with a wide range of editing needs in mind. As I have said before I can cut paying jobs on pinnacle studio. That, within this ‘what isn’t pro about it’ reasoning makes pinnacle studio pro. But it is a consumer conceived bit off software.
So is FC10. Sure you can make money using it. As you could with iMovie. But it was still conceived of as a consumer app and will, forever, have limitations for all who don’t do things within the limited parameters of apple’s perceptions of what editing is or needs to be.
My ultimate point is that it was conceived for consumers/prosumers and the basic premise of trackless events limits it’s use unless you’re willing to do the splits whilst juggling 7 hand grenades and whistling your national anthem through a porcelain recorder.
That’s great if you only need to do editing which fits in their perception of what editing is, but from day 1 this didn’t enable me to do things how I do them, and nope, not changing because Apple say jump, and as time has passed mo and more people have thrown up examples of its limitations.
Love it Steve, please do. And anyone else, love it, find apple cool and funky, stand where the puck is being hit, really, do. But this was not designed within the myriad of diverse needs of the professional editing world. And by professional editing world I do mean the established post houses who make most TV and film. I mean traditional. I mean the sector that kids wanting to edit generally aim towards working in. I mean the pro’s. The ones who get asked stuff by companies and little folk like me and you.
FC10 was conceived in an insular bubble by people wanting to realise a vision, not by people wanting to improve a bit of software used by millions.
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At what point will there be a unanimous call of ‘yep, trackless was a mistake’.
Personally i think there’s nothing wrong with trying stuff and even less wrong with going ‘ok, a circle is the correct shape for a wheel.’
Sure FC10 has elements of power and oooh and aaah, but ultimately wasn’t it designed on Randy’s ideas of how to cut his home movies? Apple are so far down the line of producer high quality tech that I don’t think they could produce a bit of consumer hardware that wasn’t powerful… but do you/we/anyone actually think Apple contemplate anything they do with the wants/needs of the minority of ‘Pros’ and the diversity and demands of ‘Pro’ ways of working/needing to work (as with this case)?
It seems every time someone says ‘Apple are a consumer company now that make toys for the middle classes’ they get shouted down with examples of tech this and spec that, but, Apple are a consumer company now that make toys for the middle classes. And that is what this software reflects. They can try and crowbar in ‘Pro’ features/requests/needs all they want, but at its heart, this is a piece of consumer software where ‘cool’ was more important than ‘practical application’… which is, pretty much, Apple’s modus operandi these days.
I think if everyone just acknowledge this and had a group hug, we’d all run a far lower risk of developing ulcers.
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hey. yes, i’m making a request short list 🙂 i’ve posted on the adobe forums too and have found some answers… some definitely don’t exist, others do and are sorted, and discovered a cool feature with the thumbnail version of bins which was nice… but yes will get there.
I have a 2 x 2.26 quad core. 16gig of ram and (sadly) a NVIDIA GeForce GT120
I have to say that clips (currently pro res encodes from my canon dslr, out of habit at the moment) in the timeline with CC on them have red bars above them but play fine.
I’ve started wrapping my head around the screen layout too (have two monitors) and have to say I really like the way you can put things where you want. I know we all edit differently and I have my own way and at the start with PP i was frustrated with how certain things worked as pertaining the windows but after ‘getting’ the scope of the layout options, all is now rather dandy.
I am feeling that PP, and the rest of the Adobe suite, is a distinct possibility for me. It is frustrating that the little things i used to be able to do in FCP7 which were time savers and key stroke savers etc., cannot be done at the moment, but I am aware that Adobe listen and try and implement things so i’m willing to wait.
I mean it took a few years for Apple to change the default shadow drop down to 2 pixels.
When our head is stroked and we’re told we’re loved, then we’ll put up with hair blocking the plug hole.
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Yes, that seems to work. that’s great, thanks, and a start 🙂 though have to say dragging a filter onto multiple clips does seem to feel quicker.
Cheers.
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Sorry, you were going on about FC10 and then mentioned a podcast so my assumption was that it was about FC10.
Paragraphs perhaps.
Anyway, thanks, had a quick look but I know where the key shortcuts are, how to change them, etc., but my questions are about specific actions and not being able to find them in the shortcuts area in order to assign keys to them.
Cheers
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Floating tracks. Great. Very, um, cool.
And cheers for the link, but really utterly not interested, sorry. If I have to learn a new EDL, and I do (thanks Apple), I’m going to waste my free time learning PP.
Cheers though.
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I did.
And i’m not sure my ignorance to PP means it isn’t good 🙂 I’m sure a lot of what I cannot do can be done, and if it can’t, well let’s just say their to-do list is going to get a lot longer as these seem like things that should be able to be done 🙂
Still, i’m sure a lot of it is just being not knowing at the moment. And in a post FCP world, which realistically we have to accept and work around, PP still has tracks which makes it leaps and bounds ahead of FC10 even if I have to wait for these things to be added in.
Though, I still, after a year, cannot believe FCP was aborted and I am not convinced i’ll ever stop being a tad annoyed with Apple at doing it. It’s like a petulant child taking his football home because he wanted to play Wembley and everyone else wanted to play 5-a-side.