[Jon Shank]

Maybe I’m just not considering Hollywood budget and planning. I shoot a lot with only one camera and with not much time so I tend to shoot everything at a consistent frame rate but they could have shot normal or fast sequences at 24 and slow mo scenes at a higher frame rate BUT it does say that he decided in post if he wanted to slow or speed the action. So it seems like the frame rate would have had to been shot consistently.

[Jon Shank]

I’ve conformed to a higher frame rate on footage I shot at 24 and it gives me nice choppy motion. And they say they didn’t speed it up they manipulated frame rate in the quote “most of the film isn’t played back at 24fps.” But if they shot at a higher frame rate and just dropped frames to 24 would interpreting to a higher (say you shot at 60, conformed to 65, then dropped into a 24 timeline) have the same effect as doing the 24 conformed to 30)?

Also I thought the 180 degree shutter angle rule applied at every frame rate to get the most “filmic” motion blur.

Or is a 360 degree shutter more filmic at 60p?

[Jon Shank]

So I if I did shoot at 59.98 fps and put it in a 23.976 timeline…

I would have to interpret it even higher than 59.98 to get the choppy motion?

(Slow motion is simple I know, just confirming to 23.976).

Also, what shutter speed would be good at 60fps for cinematic motion blur? 180 degree?

[Jon Shank]

Up above someone said the cadence putting 60 into a 24 is okay because of a “natural 3:2 pulldown”.

Is 60 in a 24 timeline good or bad or just okay?

[Jon Shank]

Yes it does! I just have a habit of shortening it to 30p (or 24 or 60) but all my footage is 23.976 or 29.97 or 59.94

[Jon Shank]

Got it, so to make a little cheat sheet for myself

(This is non-conformed footage)

30 in 24 timeline = bad
60 in 24 timeline = okay
60 in 30 timeline = good

If anyone cares to explain the math to me (not a huge deal if not cause I get the gist but I am interested)

Why is 30 in a 24 timeline crap but 60 in a 24 timeline okay?

[Jon Shank]

Sorry I worded that wrong.

So 60 to 30 is okay (no slowmotion).

Is 60 to 24 bad in the same way 30 to 24 is?

[Jon Shank]

Thank you so much for the informative post!

I guess my last question, is there any downside to bringing 60p to 24 timeline for slow motion instead of a 30p timeline.

[Jon Shank]

I’ve already read those and they all talk about how you should shoot the way you want to export and that it will delete or add frames accordingly. My question is what visually will it look like if I added 24p footage into a timeline with 30p footage. Will the end product show noticeable difference between the native 30 and the 24 I added? If so what will it look like? Staccato? Blurry?

[Jon Shank]

I’m new to this stuff and don’t notice a huge difference so I’m asking what specifically to look for besides it just being bad. I want to understand this on a fundamental level.