[John Steventon]

Hi all,

To give an idea of how complicated things have got here, there is one shot where the guy’s juggling 3 apples – and it’s in front of Christmas lights (loads of red) under sodium lighting (ok, orange, but it’s still causing issues) and with scabby looking apples.

Yee hah.

And to Marc, who suggested i’d end up screaming – the men in white coats have been called.

I think I’ve managed to get around it using a (time expensive) combination of garbabe mattes, shape masks and sticking in a keyframe every three frames.

Problem is, they’ve still not Ok’d the edit – and i know they’ll want to change 50% of the shots, meaning I’ll have to do it all over again.

Referring to a post I put in a few weeks ago, this is one reason I’m easily frustrated by FCP lack of memory of a render. Though at least it remembers the keyframing!

I’ll let you all know how I got on, when I know.

Thanks for you help.

John

John
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[John Steventon]

Hi,

Thanks for the reply, but apart from using the 3-way rather than the plain colour corrector, that’s what I’m currently doing. But as there’s so many other items on screen that are the same colour as the apples, it’s not as effective.

Thanks anyway, I’ll persevere for the meantime.

John

John
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[John Steventon]

Wow – I didn’t know about shift-A.

Thanks so much Jerry.

John

John
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[John Steventon]

Wow – thanks for that. A lot of info to take in I guess, but I’ll try it out. I’ll take a look at your book too.

Thanks again.

John

John
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[John Steventon]

Thanks to both of you for your help. I keep forgetting I can set the playback to a really low level to check things. Not always appropriate, but I’ll give it a go and check it out.

Thanks again.

John

John
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[John Steventon]

Hi there.

Don’t worry – the only reason I keep bringing up Avid when asking questions is to give more of a frame of reference to what I’m trying to do (ie, it’s an easier way to explain what I’m trying to do – and also a workflow I’m used to that if it can be emulated, I’d like to find a way – but I’m not trying to re-create Avid in FCP, more just work out the FCP way).

I’ll give nesting a go for the flare – I guess it’s by far the simplest way, but as I don’t like going back into nests and we’re constantly re-editing this piece, I’d rather it was a last resort.

Thanks very much to both of you for your help. I’ll try the white matte idea, see if it gives the same effect I’m looking for.

John

John
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[John Steventon]

Thanks for that. At least I know there might be a work-around if it happens again, frustrating as hell though! Do we know if this is being addressed for an update by Apple?

John

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[John Steventon]

Yeah, for encodes that’s what i normally do, but it’s being duplicated to VHS (spit) and the ARC they use to letterbox with doesn’t have a crop function.

I find though that hardly any braodcasters perform a crop when ARCing either though, and find it prudent to mask over the top and bottom half lines – as you’re never too sure when they will or won’t. Personally, I can’t stand it when I watch a TV show/advert – whatever and see the half lines. I see it as sloppiness, but it has been pointed out that in some cases you’ll fail tech-review if you do it – but in those cases, 99% of those who’ll fail you will also crop the lines…

Thanks for the repeat replies.

John

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[John Steventon]

Ah, right – that’s what I was doing – I guess the time to ‘make the quicktime’ was actually render time for all the real-time effects that were in the sequence.

So is there no other real-time (ish) option for this then? Maybe I’ve just got to be strict and make sure to crop everything as i put it on the Timeline then.

Oh well…

John

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[John Steventon]

That would be my first choice when working exlusively in HDV land, but as I’m mixing the footage in with DigiBeta stuff, and don’t really have the time to dump it all to Digi first before capturing, this is why the discussion came up.

If you had to choose though, what would you for for? The hardware conversion inside the HDV deck, or a resize and render on a 10-bit Pal sequence?

John

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G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.02, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.