[Johnsabbath D’urzo]

Hey Walter

This is what I found on Creative Cow. Just wondering, You mentioned you can redigi with pro res.

“many people do because they don’t like working with HDV’s long-GOP files, not because they have to. However, compositing HDV in AE is not great, as HDV does get hit with rather massive compression at every step. So, if I were you I would capture as Pro Res using Chris Poisson’s tutorial at https://library.creativecow.net/articles/poisson_chris/hdv-prores.php.

Much of the documentary work I’m doing these days is HDV edited using precisely this workflow. The quality is superb, but keep in mind that recapturing is not possible using this method, so you might want to back up your media files to another firewire drive if that concerns you. ”

Am I missing something, just trying to make sence out of all this. What is your experience?

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Thanks Shane

I heard that pro rez doesn’t hold the time code if you need to re digi? I guess I would have to have lots of back up drives to keep the footage. Well the canon is 4k and the panasonic 150 is 5k and the HVX200(dvcpro HD is about 5k to but really expensive to shoot because of P2 cards. Budgets are tight and people want you to come out for nothing. Maybe it would be better to buy an DV camera panasonic or sony dvcam and work for there. If the footage has to be downconverted anyway for DVD out put then why go crazy. Alot of people for corporate are doing HDV stuff. Well it might be good also to do HDV and then transfer the footage to dvcproHD before I edit. What you some thoughts about that? But it sounds like its a nightmare even to capture HDV. A buddy of mine does wedding videos and with about 5 hours of footage a week he said he has never had any problem to capture via firewire, the rendering takes for ever. How long would it take to transfer all the avcHD footage before the edit? what do you think?

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Is there any news for 8.01? just checked adobe. Does any one have problems with out ay patches?

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Jason

Is the rendering way faster? is it worth the investment? how much ram is in your dual?i have one to.

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In FCP I imported some DVCPRO HD footage. Then exported using AJA DVCPRO HD codec.
Imported the footage in After Effects then did a render (comp 1920×1080 Square Pixels 29.97fps & render 1920×1080 lower field first 29.97fps codec DVCPro HDi60).

When I bring the footage into FCP 6 and drop it into the timeline, I get a message that says make the timeline the same as the clip and I clicked OK. I checked the timeline settings and the clip was 1280×1080. I also checked the frame size that I imported and it was 1280. Went back to look at the After Effects project and everything was the same as mentioned above.

What is going on here?

Why would it change from 1920×1080 to 1280×1080? also what would be the difference between AJA codecs (DVCPRO HD) or the ones that come with apple?

Thank you

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would I have to transfer the HDV footage to DVCPro HD for editing? would this footage be ok on Lacie firewire dirves at 7200rpm for playback. Is there anywhere I can find a good work flow for after effects, final cut pro and DVD studio pro using HDV and DVCpro HD?

I also have a Kona LHe when I am in FCP 6 and want to export footage to bring to after effects, the export options have Kona setting for DVCPro HD and HDV. There are also settings that say HDV and DVCpro HD on there own. What would be best to use?

Thank you David and Tom for your help

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1) I am using a G5 Quad PowerMac 2.5. Would I need Mac Intel to edit HDV footage, or DVCPro HD footage in AE?

2)This is very confusing I read so many things on the net, one person says stay in HDV the other says to use pro res 422, what is the difference for pro res 422 and pro res 422 HQ.

3)I have an older version of AE 5.5 and I can create a comp for 1920×1080 HD but don’t have the option for HDV/HDTV would this matter? What’s the difference if you stay in HDV or get out of it to another compressor.

4)I would render the footage in AE as apple pro res 422 then bring into final cut and it plays fine there. When I am in AE at 1080 and I do a new layer for text the text looks like there is a glow around it like some kind of wiredfrequency. When i bring it into FCP the text would show up a little jagged if you look really close.

5) how would I burn a DVD that is HDV footage, I did a test and rendered it in compressor as mpg2 as SD 16×9 then burned the DVD as 16×9 letterbox, is this correct? what are you guys doing?

Sorry for all the questions, have a few issues and a learning curve can anyone make this clear for me. HDV footage with AE, FCP,DVD.

Thank you all so much, you have been a great help so far.

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“While HD has a resolution of 1920 x 1080 square pixels, non-square pixels can be used, just like in standard definition footage. In this case, 1440 x 1080 has a 1.33 pixel aspect ratio (have a look at the New Comp settings for HDV 1080, and you will see that aspect and resolution. ”

I have tried this and the footage still stutters on play back. I don’t have a preset that says HDV the one that I see is HD TV 1920×1080, square pixels.

“In regards to playback, if you are trying to play back the footage in AE with the spacebar (a “normal” playback), forget it. AE isn’t meant to be an editing tool, and doesn’t handle realtime playback very well for many situations (maybe none? i don’t know, i certainly don’t do it). RAM previewing is the norm, I do this even with an untreated piece of HD footage.”

This is how I did it with ram preview shift “0” so every other frame plays back. I always do this for my SD stuff and everything is fine. I just did a ram preview “0” so every frame plays back and the footage is still stuttering. Is there any thing else I can try? thank you for your help.

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AE CS4 runs on the intel only. It wont run on any mac in the last 5 years, just intel. Don’t be rude.

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so does this mean all the problems were fixed and does it work properly on last years Mac Pro 2.8GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon. I saw this on after effects cs4 system software requirements (1,280×900 display with OpenGL 2.0–compatible graphics card) does this mac pro come with this card? and can i use a crt monitor with this version of AE and this computer? I heard some of the plugins dont work is this true?