[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

we need more details. Can you copy the clip properties from Premiere into a post?

When you say is’ “out of sync” what do you mean? Out of sync with what?

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

Oh, the one thing I didn’t explain. the A in 24PA stands for “Advanced”, meaning the camera will use a 2:3:3:2 pull down instead of 2:3. (which really should be called 2:3:2:3)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2:3:3:2_pulldown#Advanced_pulldown

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

Yes is does. And you can use ether 1080i24P or 24PA with PP. If you’re going to edit anything in FCP7 you should use 24PA.

I don’t know about v7 but FCP6 wouldn’t remove the pulldown from 24P footage, only 24PA.

Just a little history to explain why all this is so confusing, The reason for this extra frame business is because DVCPRO HD was originally a tape format. On tape, your options were 720P60P or 1080i60i. To record anything else, the camera would adapt the format you wanted into one of those two.

So, to record 720p24p for example, it would record duplicate frames since the tape had to run at 60 frames a second. To record 1080 24P the camera would use a 2:3 pulldown to stick 24P into 60i, just like movies on TV have done for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine#2:3_pulldown

Now with P2, the tape limitations are removed. To the original formats were added a few others that work with the file based workflow. One of those is 720P24PN. The N stands for “Native”. Meaning that it actually records at 24P rather then 24P stuffed into 60P

The 1080i formats are just as they were on tape, but that doesn’t mean that 1080i24P isn’t true 24P. It’s got a 2:3 pulldown on it, but when you open the footage in your NLE the original 24 frames are extracted from the 60i video, and you have true 24P.

Anything else you’d like to know about P2? I’ve been shooting with an HPX-500 for 3 years now and I know the format well.

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

Ok. Here’s what’s going on.

When you record at 720p24, the Camera records 23.976p at 59.94p

Clear as mud right?

In english, what the camera is doing is recording 24 Frames every second, but the video format records 60 frames a second, so those 24 frames are recorded multiple times. Premiere Pro recognizes these extra frame and discards them. Final Cut Pro apparently didn’t.

You shouldn’t be shooting in that format though, cause it’s wasteful (cause of those duplicate frames). If you want 24p, you should ether shoot 1080p24p or 720p24PN. The former will give you the exact same frame rate you’re shooting at now, but with more resolution, the latter will only record each frame once and will double your recording times/half your storage requirements.

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

Or you can use ExFAT formated drives.

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

[Andrew Richards] “And why can’t you round trip? FCP X writes and reads FCPXML. “
Currently, Audio levels and a lot of clip settings are not saved. You’ll have a hard time round tripping a nearly finished project.

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

Hmm. Possibile issue with ExFAT:

https://superuser.com/questions/321161/disable-automatic-fsck-exfat-on-dirty-volume-mount-in-mac-osx

Until recently, I’ve been using HFSJ+ volumes and MacDrive for windows compatibility, but I Switched to ExFAT cause MacDrive can be annoying, and I don’t feel like buying another copy of it for a laptop I have… I haven’t run into this problem yet. We’ll see how it goes.

JM

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

The ones I use aren’t made anymore… Sadly. Any of these:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Raid_No&ci=8413&N=4294542361+4199523912+4294272519

The ones made by Macnally seem to be well reviewed. I’d get one of the ones with FW800 and eSATA. Then you’ll be covered no matter what computer you come across. Also, if you format them ExFAT you’ll be able to connect them to windows computers too.

As for the drives that go inside, Newegg has better prices because they sell OEM drives, they’re exactly the same drives just without the store packaging. These are the one’s I’d suggest at the moment:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%20600003269%20600003300&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=14|22-152-245^22-152-245-TS%2C22-145-475^22-145-475-TS%2C22-148-681^22-148-681-TS

Western Digital’s 2TB drive would be in this list but they have a high failure rate. Sadly, I own two of them. However, when one died, I had the other for backup and so nothing was lost.

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

I guess the MXO2 mini has less settings or the settings are in a different place? I own a MXO2 LE which I figured would be similar….

So, rather then trying to find a setting that may or may not exist, and may or may not be the problem, why don’t you try connecting the audio output from the Mini (ether the RCA plugs or the HDMI imbedded audio, or both to be thorough.) to something and check if the audio is playing back there. If it is, we can resume the search for that setting. If it isn’t, then you should probably check the Matrox forums cause I’m out of ideas at the moment.

[John-michael Seng-wheeler]

It’s not in system Preffs, It should be in “Playback Settings” inside Premiere. On the program monitor, click the Menu arrow in the top left corner, and select Playback Settings which should be the last item in the menu, then go to the audio tab. On my computer “use system sound card” defaulted to unchecked which sent the audio out imbedded in the HDMI.