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P2 imports at wrong frame rate
Hi,
I am looking to maybe switch my workflow from FCP7 to Premiere Pro CS5 and I am new to Premiere Pro. The first thing I did was try to import my P2 content shot at 59.94 fps into Premiere. With the media browser it is super easy but I noticed that the metadata in the media browser recognizes that the footage is 59.94, but when i open it in the Source monitor then the metadata reads it as 23.976 and imports it at 23.976.
I went into the preferences but didn’t see anything there that I need to change. Am I missing something?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.Laura
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Adobe PPro works with P2 natively, it doesn’t convert the files at all. So if they come in as 23.98, they were shot 23.98.
Shane
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I checked the camera and it does say 24p, but why does Final Cut say 59.94, Does FCP convert the footage in transfer?
Laura
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FCP only wraps the footage into a QT wrapper. And it will report the COMPRESSOR as 59.94, but the RATE as 23.98. 720p is a 59.94 format, but can be shot as 23.98 and 29.97. That’s just the format.
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Now I am confused. I just imported 60 frames of footage into FCP and got one second of footage.
Can you explain or do you know of any articles that can explain to me, in layman’s terms, how this whole thing works? I have been shooting this way for 4 years and always thought I was getting 59.94 fps video.
Thanks!Laura
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P2 cameras shoot 80 some different formats. Yes, 80. It all depends on how you set up your camera. 720p60 is 59.94fps. 720p24 is 59.94, but has the cadence of 24fps. 720p 24pN is 24p NATIVE…meaning the camera records 24fps…not 59.94.
I can’t see what you shot…see your camera settings. So I don’t know.
And then again, I might be wrong about how Premiere deals with P2, but in my testing with my P2 footage, it brings it in natively, in the frame rate I shot it as.
Shane
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I suggest right-clicking on your footage, choosing “Modify–>Interpret Footage…” and fiddling around with the frame rate. Tell it to run at 23.976, or 29.97, and see how it plays back.
Ben Unguren
Motion Graphics & Editing
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Looks like my camera settings are 720p24.
Laura
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Ok. Here’s what’s going on.
When you record at 720p24, the Camera records 23.976p at 59.94p
Clear as mud right?
In english, what the camera is doing is recording 24 Frames every second, but the video format records 60 frames a second, so those 24 frames are recorded multiple times. Premiere Pro recognizes these extra frame and discards them. Final Cut Pro apparently didn’t.
You shouldn’t be shooting in that format though, cause it’s wasteful (cause of those duplicate frames). If you want 24p, you should ether shoot 1080p24p or 720p24PN. The former will give you the exact same frame rate you’re shooting at now, but with more resolution, the latter will only record each frame once and will double your recording times/half your storage requirements.
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It’s all so clear now!
Or muddy.
So in FCP I was getting two of each frame?
I don’t think the HPX200 shoots 1080p so I should start shooting at 720p 24PN?Laura
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The 200 shoots:
60i, 30p, 24p, 24pa, in 1080 mode.
Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC
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