Joe Moya
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That’s it….that’s the scene on TV I saw… seems like there is a short explanation of how they did this… or, my memory could be confusing the videopilot clip with the bus hit.
I intend on green screening the whole prop area and props (still in plannning phase)…
Use an a 8 ft tall (long) and about 6 ft. wide 20 inch thick pad (used by gymnists) mounted on a dolly/cart (or something that can get a little speed up while pushing… haven’t decided what I want to use)… in combination with a harness wire to give the actions a small amount of lift and jerking effect to the impact.
This is going to take some experimenting to get it right, but it should look OK….and, will probably look much more realistic than using warping as an effect.
The reason I asked the question in the original post, is because if the scene I am planning is going to be only a couple of seconds long and single camera… then, doing the green screen, pad, cable/harness will probably be overkill and I can achieve the effect with simple editing. On the other hand, if it turns out to be a multi-camera set up that will take up to 4-6 seconds long… the back drop props might be needed.
BTW, I still haven’t found the tutorial that explains this effect… but, as best I can tell it is just a matte/roto-scoping process that will take some time to get correct (…and, can probably be done in an NLE and skip using AE).
Joe
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This looks like simple cut editing (i.e., no transitions) done effectively with the appropriate camera work.
I don’t see any strobing… or, if there is any strobing it is very sparsely used… however, I do see numerous foreground objects that are moving at faster rate than the main background…. which you may be confusing with a “faster” film rate look.I see nothing in this video that was done with AE… any pro level NLE can do this kind of editing very easily. I guess you could use AE… but, it would be more difficult and you would be using a less efficient editing tool.
Joe
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Well…actually, what I am suggesting is that you not animating the text itself…
I am suggesting that you need to create a animated MOTION PATH for the entire text lettering (or individual letters) to follow the movement of the camera. This can be done manually and make any minor adjstments to make the text follow the path you prefer. Exactly how precise you want the text to follow the movement of the camera will determine whether or not this manual method is easier than a creating an automatic motion tracking can only be determined with past experience…plus, just how much correlation of motion of the text you want to the movement of the camera.
Look up… keywords like – Keyframe assistant motion path… also, Bezier Motion Paths in 3D… there are some older online tutorials on this site that are good at explaining this process. And, AE’s help section also can be a good reference for motion paths and bezier points.
As for moving the text itself in order to match the camera motion, the best way is to fake this effect. To give this appearance that the text (…itself, not the text’s motion as the camera moves) is moving with the camera (which it is not… but, in actually the text is stationary but changes with the background of the video (i.e., morph-like)), you need to experiment with the displacement map. The Displacement Map effect and fiddling with it’s settings will make the text make suttle movements that match the ground shapes/changes (i.e., like text on a waving flag I mentioned earlier).
I am not sure how you want the text to move or appear in the video… but, I feel like the combination of Motion Path and Displacement Map will accomplish your effect relatively easily.
Joe Moya
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Well… it could involve tracking… but, that would be more difficult than simply placing the text on the ground in combination with an animated motion path (and a slight wiggle – perhaps?) with a displacement map effect.
This would look similar to what you may have seen when you put text on a fluttering/waving flag…. but, you would be mapping the texted on the ground and manually animating the text motion where and how you want the text to move and/or wiggle/shake to match the camera shake.
If the ground movement and typical camera shake/instability is low, you could achieve a very close tracking like effect with manual animation of the the text.
If you want to use tracking… hmmm…well, … the first question is whether or not that will work at all… the success depends heavily upon whether or not the ground can be tracked easily. If not, then the tracking may not even be achieveable or take an enormous amount of time. Unless you use software like Mocha by Imagineer (which is my tracking software of choice), successful tracking typically starts with the video and whether or not tracking was planned when the video was originally shot.
Joe Moya
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Actually, based the original post’s description… I can’t tell what is being asked.
But… it may be that he has a video that is moving forward and he want’s to add a text to a video where the camera is moving. In which case, this situation may involve tracking
It’s is hard to say…and, I am not trying to be a grammar police… but, if the original post had complete sentences and removed the “it’s” and “but” words… then, maybe it would make more sense and might get a useful response from readers.
Joe
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I think you are over thinking this…
To create a perspective view of a 2d picture you simply need to either – place a mask (feathered) that is tapered at the end furtherest from the bottom…. or you can simply key-shape the picture itself…. then, move the picture into a 3D rotation.
You might look up AE’s help for 3D Object annimation for more details.
Or, start learning by creating a composition with a solid… then, turn on the 3D layer switch. Then rotate, scale and position the solid object until you get the 3D looking effect you want. The x,y,z points appear with pointer to help with the rotation and position. The yellow blocks on the corners and be moved to make the solid more narrow at one end than the other. And, the cross-hair icon marks the layer’s anchor point… which means, you can adjust the horizon line.
No matter your approach… this is something you might want to look at the manual or find a basic tutorial on using the 3D methods of AE.
Joe Moya
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Appears to me that there are two portions:
Top portion is a video of actual clouds.
Bottom Portion is a picture of a city.A glow and blur are used to hide the division of the two portions and some perspective adjustments to get the two portions to match. The cloud movement is not a camera move with AE but most likely an actual film of clouds as a camera in a plane moves through the clouds…but, of course you will use some timewarping and maybe even some slight AE camera movements to adjust the look.
It will take some adjusting and tweaking to get this to look right… but, it is a pretty basic effect/view…
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Well… for starters… AE is not a software that you can easily say what you should learn and what you should not learn.
AE is a software that is difficult to learn and impossible to master only because it has so many options and powerful aspects.
The only way to begin learning AE is to start using AE… looking at the many hours of available free tutorials is a good place to start once you have learned the basics. For learning the basics, I would suggest you buy any of the many tutorials you can find with a simple google search.
Upgrading may be a good decision, but learning with 6.5 will be a good place to start. And, after you got a good handle on the basic use of AE you might consider upgrading. On the otherhand, starting with CS3 will provide you with the capacity to learn the basics with the most current application and the additional capabilities that CS3 provides.
Either direction, you will only begin to understand what is the important aspects about AE when you start to experiment and make many frustrating mistakes.Good luck.
Joe
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The fastest and easiest way to get a time lapse effect would be to use a Pro-level video editing software and not use AE at all.
But, if you want to use AE… then one way would to be use the Timewarp filter…
Do a search and you will find many suggestions as to how to achieve this using AE.
Joe
Side note: … someone should site threads that provide an answer (or answer’s) to this question in the FAQ section…
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Well, … I’ve never attempted to get that specific effect on film…so, some else may have a better idea.
But… you might try and use wax paper or… better yet… transparency with any color background you want to use… but, I would suggest a white background since you want to use the ink as a matte… you can add the black background later… but… I might add… I think you should use a light background around the text… the sample text is too dack relative to the black… it would stand out much better (making it much more readable) with some white (or lighter color) in the text.
I think your just going to have to experiment to get a video reference matte of the text effect.
Joe Moya