[Jimmy Brunger]

Or use Character map.

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Might be going through a converter? Or I suspect it is just a domestic TV.

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[Jimmy Brunger]

Sometimes a good trick can be to put a very light white glow (or deeper red glow if white not suitable) on the red if over black (Is it over a black BG?)

But if the prob is your firewire output (don’t know exactly because not tried firewire to o/p) and it is mission critical I’d seriously think of getting a Decklink Pro put in your machine, so you can have a ‘proper’ component or SDI signal going to your broadcast monitor for an undistorted view of what your image/colours will look like. Tis only

[Jimmy Brunger]

Also, really vivid reds can look even worse if on black. Best to avoid that colour combination if possible. It won’t show on your PC monitor, but view it on a b/cast mon or domestic TV and you’ll see it. Going for a more blood red will often fix it.

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[Jimmy Brunger]

Thanks for the info Neil…the Multibridge does indeed look like a great product – but it is

[Jimmy Brunger]

Thanks Bob, Kristian,

Yes, perhaps I should have opted for the Extreme for more flexibility..but I initially bought the Pro just for component monitoring in AFX and Photoshop, but since adding a RAID-0 and slightly faster proc it turns out I can capture/output SDI video via the Decklink aswell now, instead of our Clipstation. I usually only work with GFX and a touch of compositing, but I figured it would be useful if I could grab/output the audio aswell if possible…

So Kristian – can I use the 4 sets of SPDIF for both monitoring and outputting digital audio? I thought the SPDIFs were only for monitoring? That’d be great if I could you one pair to output/input stereo to/from our patch bay…And perhaps one of the other sets for some Edirol monitors or similar?

Is this possible?

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[Jimmy Brunger]

If it’s in your comp window you’re talking about – then that it is just AE simulating what it will look like when viewed in widescreen. If you view your AE output through a Decklink Card/AJA/ Bluefish444 or similar you will see an undistorted version in 16:9.

I found it annoying at first (Pretty much all apps show it this way though) but if you can monitor it externally it’s fine.

Just to confirm – AE isn’t actually distorting your pixels, it’s just a preview.

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Hi Chris,

Sorry – is this PAL you’re talking about or NTSC?

I’m just trying to acetane (thought I had it sussed!?!) whether 0-255 in PAL is legal to broadcast, not so much what the output hardware can handle, because at the end of the day it’s what a bog standard domestic TV can handle that mattters.

I’m further confused this morning (will this ever end?) by looking in AE once more at Broadcast Colors filter….there is an option for PAL there and when I bump up the saturation on an already 255 red the info palette never reads more than 255 (don’t think it can can it?) yet the ‘key out unsafe’ selection keys out some of the affected red. So, if it’s not more than 255 in the first place, why is AE trying to pull it back. Very confusing!

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Ahh…thanks Steve. Seems PAL is different: –

“PAL television transmissions in most countries can use 100% color saturation so no RGB color is illegal as long as your luma content doesn’t go over 100 IRE & your chroma content doesn’t go over 131 IRE. This is because most PAL countries use a wider channel bandwidth for broadcast than NTSC countries (7 or 8 MHz rather than 6 MHz) & because PAL transmitters don’t invert the signal before transmission.”

Learn something new every day! That’s tht bit of worrying done with.

Now, for this bl00dy font suitcase…..

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Yeah, Newtek VT[4] has a proc amp/vectorscope built in and we have the house legaliser (big rack mounted box in machine room) for output from the Editbox/Digisuite. Footage that has been through either of these and shown up as legal is still coming out 0-255 in the info palette in After Effects, or proc amp on VT[4]

I’m just a bit confused. We’ve never had anything sent back or questioned before, yet it seems 0-255 stuff is being seen as legal by our (some of it) expensive hardware.

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