Jeremy Allen
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Unless there is just no way you can afford it, get the Duck. I’ve only had it for a few weeks, but I don’t know how I got by without it before.
The other alternative is to use Premiere Pro.. You can open those projects directly in AE. I know you were asking about FCP, but maybe you or others didn’t know that about Premiere..
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[Darby Edelen] “Or set the shared background up as a pre-comp and change it once (;”
haha, touche 🙂
Sometimes the simplest solutions are the hardest to see… why is that?
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ummmm, put a big red blinking star in the lower left so maybe people wont notice the house? 🙂
Sorry, but I would think frame by frame is about the only way to go really. And I’m sure it is taking forever. I bet those trees are a nightmare.
This is the epitome of something that could have been done so much easier and quicker with a little more planning on the film crew’s part. Seems like a slight reframing would have eliminated the problem without changing the shot too much.
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Yeah, I don’t have any control over cutting the audio. This is a talking head shot, one version is 30 seconds, the other version is 60 seconds and both were done straight through in one take.
So in a different scenario, I often get music bed mixes that I need to animate to. My general approach would be to place markers in AE for certain “hits” or points of emphasis. Is this totally backwards? Would the standard way be to animate first, then build the music bed around that if possible? Sometimes it is possible, other times it’s not because I might be animating to a song, not a fabricated “score”..
One other question. Aside from AE’s lack of efficient audio tools, what are the concerns with rendering audio in AE? Is it mainly a speed issue, or are there quality concerns as well? Please forgive me if these are beginner questions, but how will I know if I don’t ask right?
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[Darby Edelen] “Don’t do your audio work in AE. Even if you need to time things to visual elements, you will have the visual elements when you do your render and you can time the audio in Final Cut, it’s just faster.”
I’m not sure if I explained that right or if something got misinterpreted. I have a voice over that talks about key points, which need to be illustrated with my animation. So the voice says point A, and I bring up the corresponding animation for point A. So without the audio, I wouldn’t know when to bring up the different animations. Does that make more sense? I’m not actually doing any work to the audio in AE, only using it as a timing reference. Is there still a better way to do this?
[CK Dexterhaven] “I want layers 1,5,6,29 & 52 to render as Movie X-add to render queue; then in the same comp, I want layers 3,5,20, & 64 to render as Movie Y-add to render queue, then hit the render button and go to sleep.”
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been in pretty much that same scenario. I also thought I could do that with work area..Set the work area…Qeue it up. Set another work area, Qeue that up. But alas, it does not work..
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Thanks for the responses. I haven’t been doing this for 10 years so I don’t really know the most efficient workflow for this kinda thing.
My final objective is:
Logo A – 1 voice and music with graphics, 1 voice only with graphics
Logo B – “”,””So that equals 4 final pieces.
I started with the clips and audio (voice and music) in Final Cut. Once happy with the edit, I Automatic Ducked it over to After Effects. Having the audio in the comp is important in this case because there are specific animations that go with the timing of the voice. I preview the audio and insert markers for animation timing.
So at this point would you suggest only rendering the image and then putting the pieces back together in Final Cut? It seems like an extra step to me when I can render it all together from AE. Now this is only a minute long piece, so it may be a bigger deal with longer material. Plus for quality, I’m under the impression that you want to go back and forth as little as possible.
As far as getting them to sync the audio, I’m still in the approval stage, so I’m making DVD’s of this to be viewed by the client.
My original question has pretty much been answered, but if you’d like to suggest any tips on efficiency and workflow, I’m all ears.
Thanks again!
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So I have a Power Mac Quad 2.5Ghz with 4Gb Ram, and AE7pro only uses around 60% of 3Gb when rendering. Does it save the other 1Gb for other apps and OS or what? If that’s the case, why cant I get 100% of 3GB? What am I missing there?
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I’ve always been puzzled by AE render times as well. It just doesnt seem like there is alot of consistency to render times between different projects. But as mentioned, the time it takes is usually closely tied to whatever effects you are using.
I don’t know if this really makes a difference or not, but it seems logical to me. I always quit all other programs if I have to do a big render. For instance, I recently did a 30 second piece that took about 45 minutes to render. Well of course I had to make changes. For the next render, I quit all other programs and it took about 10 minutes. But even with quitting other programs, I never seem to use more than 60% of my Ram for rendering.
Someone also suggested covering the view window with the Render Qeue while rendering, so the screen doesnt have to refresh every frame.
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I just read this in another thread and I think it bears repeating… Dave (and Steve) you are being too nice. 🙂
You should at least let Kurt know that his attitude wont get him answers any faster.
It annoys me to no end when people come here for answers and then mouth off to the ones trying to help them, geeez..
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After posting here, I discovered there is a forum for Episode Pro, and Craig Seeman is helping me there. It seems to be an issue with cropping the footage in EP. Thanks for your time Darby.