[Jeff Ledellaytner]

Hey there,
I posted a similar question with no response. Have you heard anything yet?

Thanks.
Jeff

[Jeff Ledellaytner]

Thanks everyone for writing back. We’ve tried Sheer and Animation+ codecs. Both playback on a DV timeline just find in UNLIMITED RT mode. Playing back those codecs in a 10bit uncompressed timeline, it gets kinda choppy.

We’re running the media off a MEDEA SCSI raid, so the drives are super fast. The MACPRO also has 8G of RAM in it and it’s the DUAL QUAD core. So the thing is a beast, but when you put the timeline in SAFE MODE, you still have to render it. Bummer.

Jeff

[Jeff Ledellaytner]

Hey yall. Thanks for all the responses. Here are some final thoughts:
I never should of labeled the video, “Avid vs FCP”
It should have been labeled, “Why do basic functions in Avid seem slower than in FCP”
I probably would have gotten way more contructive criticism.
I failed to mention my Avid is hooked up to a Unity. I’m from the school of thought, that if it costs more, then it should run better. Maybe not.
There are a many ways to compare FCP and Avid, laptops, BOBs, software versions, shared storage etc…
I really don’t care what I edit on, I just want it to be fast. That said, I’m pulling the video. Thanks for the feedback and I’m going to try make my Avid run a little smoother now.

later.
Jeff

[Jeff Ledellaytner]

Hey yall. Thanks for all the responses. Here are some final thoughts:
I never should of labeled the video, “Avid vs FCP”
It should have been labeled, “Why do basic functions in Avid seem slower than in FCP”
I probably would have gotten way more contructive criticism.
I failed to mention my Avid is hooked up to a Unity. I’m from the school of thought, that if it costs more, then it should run better. Maybe not.
There are a many ways to compare FCP and Avid, laptops, BOBs, software versions, shared storage etc…
I really don’t care what I edit on, I just want it to be fast. That said, I’m pulling the video. Thanks for the feedback and I’m going to try make my Avid run a little smoother now.

later.
Jeff

[Jeff Ledellaytner]

Well put Oliver.

Jeff

[Jeff Ledellaytner]

Hey there. Thanks for all your posts. Here are a couple of replies.

1- I used this setup. MAC OSX 12.4.3 Dual 2Ghz 2.5 GB Ram / AVID Adrenaline 1.8.2
Both FCP and Avid are installed on the same machine with the same #of programs running.

2- My main point was that Avid costs almost 40x more than the desktop FCP version. Why does a little desktop program seem to glide around the interface much better than a 40k program? You’d think it’d be the opposite. Both programs have their strengths and weaknesses. I just wanted to hight light the main point of interface mobility. No one wants to wait around for a bin to open up. That’s all.

3- Oliver, how do you make Avid make incremental clip names in the digitize window? Can’t find it. Also, the automation tool stinks in Avid. Who wants a million key frames in your timeline? Setting a capture bin and a loggin bin is the same number of steps in each program. At least in FCP you don’t have to wait a year for it to open, even in large projects.

Thanks for the feedback.
Jeff

[Jeff Ledellaytner]

Hey everyone. I figured I’d let this one marinate before I replied. It seemed to get nice and juicy. Let me respond to some of the concerns by everyone:

1. Promoboy. My Mac and Avid are approved and up to spec to work with each other. MAC OSX 10.4.3 Dual 2Ghz 2.5 GB Ram / AVID Adrenaline 1.8.2 Both FCP and Avid are installed on the same machine with the same #of programs running.

2. Kevin. I’m sorry I wasn’t born in the 60’s and started editing in 1986. That’s not my fault. I know editors who’ve been on Avid since v.1.x and have the same complaints. My point is that Avid would be a great program if it would play with Mac’s a little better. Every tech support call I’ve been on with Avid, they just throw their hands up when I tell them I’m on a Mac. I’ve had 100 more bugs with this thing compared to FCP. I was hoping if the right person saw this vid (I sent it to Avid directly too) that they would address these issues in the next Mac release.

3. Tae: If you want to come over and give me an Avid lesson, be my guest. NONE of the clips are sped up. You wish.

4. W. Busby: That link you found, check the date. “Oct 8, 2003” That was 3 years ago, and a totally different problem. Swapping out my entire G4 was a pain in the ass just to make the App work.

5. Tristen. I’m trying to just edit something. But I’m waiting around for bins to open all day.

6. Liam. You have a point with a couple things. Track selecting in Avid is nice compared to FCP. But FCP is not trying to do the same thing. It’s more hands on with the move and blade tool, two different approaches. I prefer Avids, but I get used to FCP’s methods. The timeline zoom issue. Just map your keyboard like I did. And again, NOTHING was sped up. The waveform thing was not a big deal and I probably should have left it out. Moot point.

7. Shane. Read above.

Jeff

p.s. If anyone could put me in front of a Mac Adrenaline without these problems, I’d love to come by and check it out.