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  • FCP alpha Codec

    Posted by Jeff Ledellaytner on August 1, 2007 at 6:20 pm

    Hey there,
    Does anyone know if there is a codec out there that Final cut can play in real time that includes an alpha channel? I’m running FCP6.0 on an Intel Mac Pro with the Kona 3. For instance, I want a codec to render a lower 3rd out of After effects, that will play in real time in an FCP sequence. Prefferably an uncompressed 10bit. Thanks.

    Jeff

    Rafael Amador replied 18 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Russell Lasson

    August 1, 2007 at 6:45 pm

    Not that I know of. When you stack one clip with an alpha channel on top of the other you will need to render it (though sometimes it might play it back at a lower quality in realtime.)

    -Russ

  • Russell Lasson

    August 1, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “when I want footage with an alpha channel… no rendering, either.”

    Do you put it into a 10-bit uncompressed timeline or a animation timeline. Even though it might playback, don’t you need to render it before or on output?

    -Russ

  • Gary Alan

    August 1, 2007 at 7:10 pm
  • Russell Lasson

    August 1, 2007 at 7:14 pm

    It’s my understanding that it doesn’t support FCP realtime features though. But if you put it into a 10-bit uncompressed timeline it might behave the same as the animation codec.

    -Russ

  • Misha Aranyshev

    August 1, 2007 at 8:03 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “And my card isn’t nearly as cool as a Kona 3.”

    Targa Cin

  • John Heagy

    August 1, 2007 at 8:35 pm

    Apple’s “none” codec supports uncompressed RGBA and would probably playback easier assuming your drives are fast enough.

    John

  • Jeff Ledellaytner

    August 1, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Thanks everyone for writing back. We’ve tried Sheer and Animation+ codecs. Both playback on a DV timeline just find in UNLIMITED RT mode. Playing back those codecs in a 10bit uncompressed timeline, it gets kinda choppy.

    We’re running the media off a MEDEA SCSI raid, so the drives are super fast. The MACPRO also has 8G of RAM in it and it’s the DUAL QUAD core. So the thing is a beast, but when you put the timeline in SAFE MODE, you still have to render it. Bummer.

    Jeff

  • Misha Aranyshev

    August 1, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    It has hardware RGB<>YUV conversion and alpha support. None of the “modern” FCP-compatible cards have anything like this so until Apple moves FCP processing engine from CPU to GPU keep that contraption around.

  • Russell Lasson

    August 1, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    That’s been my experience. You’ll still need to render.

    -Russ

  • Rafael Amador

    August 2, 2007 at 2:48 am

    Without hesitate: Sheer.
    You got RGB(A) 8/10b and YCbCr(A) 8/10b 444 or 422. And the size of the files are a fraction of the Apple Unc. Works great.
    Cheers,
    rafael

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